Ryan Day Radio Show: Ryan Day Thinks Ohio State’s Loss to Oregon Was “Not a Wakeup Call” for the Buckeyes, Says the Team Has “Been Going After It” All Year
“Fix” or “gotta get that fixed”. He loves that term fix. Doesn’t do much w it. But loves it.
That and how he wasn’t surprised. For example the onside kick. But it still worked out for them….
All coaches say these things. It isn't just Day. Urban did the same thing. I remember 2016 - "We gotta get the O Line fixed" every week from Urban. Y'all just being butthurt.
If you interpret my comment as being butthurt, you interpret incorrectly. It's simply pointing out how fruitless these coach interviews are. Yes, all coaches do this, it's not just Day.
That Notre Dame team that we beat was hot garbage. Both teams played really bad football. Day carried on like it was a program defining win. His standards are too low for this program.
I don’t think the onside kick did surprise them. They had Downs up front in the middle with a different numbered jersey on to field the kick. Oregon got lucky the ball hit him like it did and bounced back to them.
Man, I'm glad I'm not the only one that feels that.
I don't expect him to give away game plan stuff on a radio show, but when you just repeat yourself in every situation everyone is going to believe you just don't care.
The Excellence of Execution, the Best there is, the Best there was, the Best there ever will be!
OK, I’M OVER MY STANDARD KNEE JERK, “FIRE THE HEAD COACH, DITCH THE HIGH PAID ASSISTANTS, & TAKE N.I.L,$$ FROM OUR ALL TALK-LITTLE PERFORMING PLAYERS MODE!
WOODY DROVE MY FAMILY CRAZY IN THE 60’s & 70’s, MY UNCLE HAD PUT SEVERAL “WOODY HOLES”, IN THE FRONT DOOR CLOSET, B4 OUR RITUAL RUN TO WHITE CASTLE AT HALF TIME!!
…….but…..IT’S THIS DAMNED PATTERN, GOING BACK vs TOP TIER TEAMS!! LIKE MOST HERE, OUTSIDERS MAY NOT REALIZE HOW BADLY WE NEED TO GET THAT‘CHAMPIONSHIP FEEL’ BACK!!! I’LL NEVER ABANDON THIS TEAM , EVER/NEVER-EVER/NO WAY!!!
SO….LET’S CIRCLE THE WAGONS & START WHOMPIN’ SOME ASS, STATE!!! DAMMIT FELLA’S,
This game should absolutely be a wakeup call. We will struggle against good teams if we don't get a pass rush. Gabriel had all day to throw the ball. Whatever it takes...make the QB uncomfortable and hit him a time or two.
Still ticked about the OPI penalty. The refs allowed physical play the entire game and then decide to throw a flag with 30 seconds left? It reminded me of the hose job the Bengals got against the Rams in the Super Bowl.
What do you think Urban or Saban would say after that game? My guess is they would have more urgency (with both coaches and players) to get some things fixed.
They were not perfect coaches, but both of them won multiple championships for a reason. Expectations and accountability matter.
"It is easy to grin, when your ship comes in and you know you got the stock market beat. But a man worthwhile is a man who smiles, when his shorts are too tight in the seat." -Judge Smails
Here’s Urban after we got blown out by Purdue which ended up costing us the playoffs:
Q: Obviously some of the issues that flared up tonight we've seen in the past. How surprised are you by this performance?
URBAN MEYER: Very surprised. I thought we had a good week of work. The glaring shortcomings we have were exposed. The number one off the top of my head is our red zone offense. You go down there three times, two field goals and one missed field goal, you’ve gotta score points. We’ve never had this issue. So we’re going to get a real thorough evaluation of that. And the big plays on defense.
Q: The problems are easy to see?
URBAN MEYER: We have good players, good coaches and we’re going to get to work. We lost a game last year and came right back. So we have good guys and we’re going to work our you-know-whats off and get this thing right.
Q: Is there a sense that some things need to be sort of blown up in the next two weeks by you guys or some things that need some drastic change?
URBAN MEYER: I don’t know if it’s blown up. Once again, we’re 7-1 and we’ve got a chance to be 8-1. That’s the only focus. But there’s some serious shortcomings right now we’ve got to get fixed.
On the McAfee show day before the Oregon game, Saban talked about a loss in high stakes games. He said he always was easy oh his players after a loss in a big game. He “worked them really hard” after a win. Saban didn’t mention how he handled his staff after a loss.
That’s also a point he made to McAfee. No one is more disappointed and down after a loss than the players. He also emphasize it’s much easier to get players refocused and discipline after a loss than after a big win.
Oregon better watch out. Purdue sucks, but it’s a short week after a big win and they’ve never been to West Lafayette before. That place is a natural downer.
I disagree. I think it was actually perfect wording. If he says it's a wakeup call it sends the message that they were performing poorly all year and they weren't. They need to get better but no need to kick a dog when it's down and there was no reason to suggest they were playing poorly prior.
I think a little honesty never hurts. To say it didn't wake us up to try something different is just crazy. I bet you we see different things out of our D Line going forward
Exactly, 74. The Buckeye prep and effort have been there all season. They had the game circled, and did some good things but Oregon also played great and was the better team that night. Both can be true but it’s not like this squad assumed it was invincible and could sleep walk into that game.
"In weightlifting, I don't think sudden, uncontrolled urination should automatically disqualify you."
-Jack Handey
Because there is a difference between a "wake up call" and "identifying areas in need of improvement." I personally don't think this was a "wake up call" because going into the game, the staff knew this was going to be a very tough game. A "wake up call" is when you get totally blindsided in a game that NO ONE forecasted that you had any chance of losing. I'd call the Purdue and Iowa losses a few years back "wake up calls." I'd consider the Alabama loss to Vandy a "wake-up call." A one point road loss to a team a Top 3 team we were only forecasted to beat by three is not a "wake up call."
I kinda disagree with this statement that they’ve been getting after it all year because this was against a #3 team. All other games before Oregon were against unranked teams this year. So it seems like he’s poo-pooing the loss. Like the BSB, I’m kinda concerned about how this team bounces back next week against the Huskers, especially with their QB who can sling it.
It better be a wake up call, especially for the defense. We continue to generate 0 pressure on the QB in big game after big game, big plays/blown coverages continue to gash us, not being able to get a stop when we need it - the list goes on.
Not exactly the statement I want to hear out of the HC following a repeat of the same defensive issues from years past
could’ve fooled me, because we couldn’t rush the QB, they were dropping dimes against our secondary, couldn’t anticipate trickeries on both sides of the ball etc…
Also, Oregon practically set us up for success when they botched multiple PAT attempts.
For the idiots with no comprehension: a wake up call is what Bama got losing to Vanderbilt. When you go into something too confident and get smoked. OSU losing to Oregon by 1 point is NOT a wake up call moment. It’s a we have some shit to improve upon moment.
Um seems like a wake up call when a lot of people foolishly thought this defense was much better than it really is halfway through the season. You don't have to get your ass smoked against a cupcake for it to be a wake up call.
And everyone I would hope already knew that we had a lot of shit to improve on. But we're not. The damn wake up up call is you better try something different because what you're doing isn't working especially against matchup opponents. You want to be the man you got to beat the man. And OSU is NOT beating the men, whether by 1 point or 50.
My biggest complaint with what he said was on this statement:
“Not a lot of stuff that caught us off guard."
I could have taken the defensive line not getting to the QB a lot better if it was all new stuff Oregon did. Obviously wasn’t. That really irritates me.
Once again, would the media please ask some real questions about the defense. Like:
Why can’t the defensive line pressure the QB?
Is there a rift/disagreements between coaches on the defensive side?
We have heard the defense is getting fixed for several years, what do you think needs done to fix it?
Day said Ohio State needs to win the turnover battle and the rushing battle in matchup games. He added that the Buckeyes also have to limit explosive plays against talented teams. "Those things have to get fixed."
Yeah, that rushing battle would have been won by feeding Trey a little more. Probably could have leaned on the run game some more and ate up clock.
But with Zen in, were they able to run it as effectively as they wanted? Past games, the Lt side was getting a heavy dose of run, because Simmons was playing at elite level. Not surprised that the run game sorta petered out a bit after losing both Tegra and Simmons.
When is someone going to ask him whether he's going to step in and end the feud between Knowles and Larry J? As long as Larry continues to be stubborn and cling to his way of doing things, Knowles will never be able to truly run the defense as he should.
I do not really know that there is any issue between them, but someone should at least ask the question. It is the 800 pound gorilla in the room. And Coach Day can't simply ignore it if there is. That is what he is there for. That said, I probably would not answer the question; it is internal, not public. But the press (journalists) should at least ask.
If your opponent knocks you on your ass, honor the game and RESPECT him. But Gentlemen, no bastard ever won a football game by getting knocked on his ass. You won it by knocking the other poor dumb bastard on his ass and making HIM respect YOU!!
Knowles and LJ have been asked about it in a myriad of ways. They both shoot down the idea that there’s any drama. It all began in 2022 when Knowles put Jack sawyer in the JACK position and he just looked out of place. The same fans complaining NOW, at that time said that sawyer was being wasted ina position he wasnt recruited to play. Which coincidentally was the ONLY gripe that LJ had as well. He felt sawyer and JT were best as hand in the dirt DE’s not the JACK. He was right and Knowles eventually agreed. Since then, they’ve tried to recruit some dudes just for the Jack spot but have missed on the ones they wanted. That’s when fans once again blame LJ, thinking that’s why they can’t recruit them. If they get more than one dude that can play it and excel, we will see it. Or we can just believe Dave biddle and his “sources”.
BULL1215, IF Day finally realizes that this DL's ongoing approach in creating some pressure against quality competition, I would consider that a wake-up call. But what do I know, I'm just an idiot, not a cheerleader.
If you have two people that agree on everything, that only means one of them is not thinking at all.
I love Coach Day..... but man, not a wake-up call is pretty weak sauce...
I thought the best thing he did last season was come out swinging after that ND game, team rallied around that..
This just feels like "we'll get em next time"..
Day said Ohio State was prepared for Oregon's onside kick, but the situation still worked out in the Ducks' favor.
And I still don't buy this.. You don't defend an onside kick by putting Caleb Downs in and then have everyone running a kick return but him The tape doesn't lie, we've got 5 guys up on the line, not a hands team, and 4 of them bail immediately.. that's not how you protect against an onside kick.
And rarely, if ever, get embarrassed. There are frustrations but also bright spots. I felt a lot worse after 31-0 Clemson, the 2018 Purdue game and the 2017 Iowa game. At least Oregon was ranked and actually good.
"In weightlifting, I don't think sudden, uncontrolled urination should automatically disqualify you."
-Jack Handey
Neither do I, but let's be realistic: going undefeated is extremely rare, which is why it's such a big deal when it occurs. So I don't expect it, but enjoy it when it does occur. Outsized expectations just bring outsized disappointments. Oregon was always a game that we realistically could have lost. We (the fanbase) just got our expectations a bit too worked up from Oregon's struggles at the beginning of the season. They've obviously corrected them.
Who knows? Maybe they'll shock the world and run the table from here on out. Unlike most seasons, there is really no invinvible unbeatable looking team out there. On a neutral field we'd have to be no worse than a coin-flip with anybody even with our obvious flaws and shortcomings.
Texas still doesn't strike fear in me like Bama, Georgia, or LSU when they were at the height of their powers. Today's Texas is more like the last two Clemson teams we faced in the Playoffs. A major hurdle but not insurmountable.
You're given them way to much credit. It's still Texas and Sarkisian and Ewers. They've been more snake bit in big games over the years than even us, with way fewer appearances. So no, I'm not ready to crown them champions of anything yet.
It wasn't a wakeup call for the fans. We have been reading this book since the Clemson game in 2019.
To me, Ryan Day is at the same juncture Urban Meyer was in 2014 after the loss to VA TECH. After that loss, Meyer's Buckeyes had lost 3 of their most recent 5 games going back to the loss to Sparty to determine the Big Ten Champ. Immediately after, they lost to Clemson in the Orange Bowl, QB career-ending injury to Braxton Miller. Then they won their opener in 2014 before losing to VT. In a documentary of that season, Shelley said that Urban told her (very uncharacteristically) after the VT loss that "we are going to be fine". We can only wonder what Ryan Day said to his wife upon getting home from Oregon on Sunday.........
'Wake up call' vs 'work on things' is semantics. The good thing is that we have a bye and can work for two weeks with a bad taste in our mouths.
In reality, any one of a small handful of plays going our way could have changed the outcome of that game. if we stayed at the 29-yard line and booted the FG at the end, nobody would be even be thinking about a wake-up call. The Day staff needs to keep refining in all 3 phases, patch the injury holes, assess the upcoming opponents to the Nth degree, implore these young men to do their assignments every play and win the 1-on-1 battles most if not all the time.
Knock on wood but if we run the table, we probably play Oregon again. That's getting ahead of ourselves but I like our chances.
Was going to say something similar earlier about it becoming a word game of semantics, which can be fun at times but in these cases can be annoying - wake-up call, shocking, surprising, eye-opening, or just well we have a lot to work on. Whatever you want to call it, whether we all had this game circled & knew it would be tough or not, I think it's a wake-up call that OSU D gave up 500 yards of O in less than 27 minutes ToP, did not create 1 TO & almost no impact plays to speak of at all against the Ducks. Yeah we lost by 1 point, & the Offense played extremely well but certainly not perfect or clean but still put up 470 yards & 31 points & still needed a score at the end to win it. We didn't get it so we lost. Oregon's offense is very good, I have no problem saying that. And to give up 300 or even maybe 400 yards, ok, but 500 in 27 minutes. Likely the best offense we see all year but we still have difficult games ahead. Hopefully, Bucks continue to work very hard on the right things & the D can finally get some things really figured out & "fixed" & the O can play just a little cleaner & we will be very difficult to beat. This better be a wake up call because while we still have all of our goals in front of us, if we stumble at all the second half then some of the goals start disappearing.
If once again, lack of physicality and imploding in the 4th isn't a wake-up call, I don't know what is. Six years is one long call. I'd hate to see the bill.
The humorous thing on this site is that you can't criticize Day without antagonizing the True Believers. Unfortunately the extremes on both ends of the spectrum scream the loudest.
Yep. I keep getting blasted for having the audacity to point out our deficiencies on the OL and DL. Those two position groups are hands down the most important groups to the success of a football team. Always has been and always will be. Having Grade A players on the LOS can make a bunch of 3 star skill players look all pro. I love that we have 4 and 5 stars all over the place at the skill positions. It's great. But that gets greatly diminished when we can't control the LOS in crunch time against top teams. I really wish we would recruit OL like we do QB and WR. We have to get our numbers up there. Why can't we develop those 3 and 4 star O linemen ala Iowa and Wisconsin.
"Everyone has a plan, 'til they get punched in the mouth."
For him not to recognize this as a wake up call is revealing and obtuse. I fear the next close game for this team as their leader is not equipped to guide them through the obstacles because he hasn't done it enough yet.
Ryan Day has a loaded roster. Yes this was a wake up call because your defense was yet again a liability in a big game. It’s ok to admit it’s a wake up call. Go take the bull by the horns and let’s prove to the country how good we are
Sometimes, being humbled makes you better equipped to face the challenges that lie ahead. With all the talk about Natty or Bust, perhaps it's good to get a reminder that it's not as easy as showing up on the field of play with a team stacked with talent.
Memento Mori.
Remember, thou art mortal.
Better to learn this lesson now than in the playoffs. You aren't guaranteed anything.
He won't state it. But he knows it. Using a reply like, "The focus is on moving forward" is a way of indirectly admitting there were parts of the team that looked like ass.
I'm not an excuse kind of person. It's football, you either a do, or do not, nothing else. Something is wrong when you leave a guy in the game who gave up 200 yards in pass defense to the opposing offense. A defense that had not one TFL or a sack. The defensive staff has to find a way to get the defense off the field without giving up points or long drives. New scheme perhaps! Where's the Jack? Are we ever going to see Knowles defense? Nebraska has a dual threat QB and Buckeye history under Knowles has shown that dual threat QB's have good success against his defenses. I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think the Huskers will be an easy out. Offense may have to save the day.
If you can’t make a fourth and one, you don't deserve to win.
It's always frustrating when our experienced staff gets outcoached by a newbie. I felt that way under Urban in the 2017 Oklahoma game and this last weekend against Oregon. Lanning seemed to be the one that had his team slightly more prepared and was able to master the last 30 seconds of the game. The 12 man thing was cheap, and I hate that it cost us, but up until yesterday it was a legal play. The onside kick was pretty clever, albeit exceedingly lucky. The only reason they tried it was because one of our DBs had a stupid 15 yard penalty on the play before.
Can't let Oregon beat you twice. Huskers are the task at hand, they are a team you should be able to dog walk over the course of four quarters. But they're absolutely good enough to steal one from you.
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I really hate these interviews. It's literally exactly the same after every loss, lol.
"We were right there"
"This one hurts"
"We have to fix it going forward"
All of these things are true, of course, I just feel like you could copy and paste the same answers after every Buckeye loss since 2019.
We can't stop here; this is bat country...
“Fix” or “gotta get that fixed”. He loves that term fix. Doesn’t do much w it. But loves it.
That and how he wasn’t surprised. For example the onside kick. But it still worked out for them….
I’m sorry, I can’t hear hippies. - Ron Swanson
All coaches say these things. It isn't just Day. Urban did the same thing. I remember 2016 - "We gotta get the O Line fixed" every week from Urban. Y'all just being butthurt.
"Khajiit has wares if you have the coin."
Butthurt? So anything but a Homer comment = butthurt? Got it.
I’m sorry, I can’t hear hippies. - Ron Swanson
That isn't what was said but if you want to take it as such, go for it.
"Khajiit has wares if you have the coin."
If you interpret my comment as being butthurt, you interpret incorrectly. It's simply pointing out how fruitless these coach interviews are. Yes, all coaches do this, it's not just Day.
We can't stop here; this is bat country...
That Notre Dame team that we beat was hot garbage. Both teams played really bad football. Day carried on like it was a program defining win. His standards are too low for this program.
Robert M
It makes me wonder, though: where the hell is Lou Holtz, right now?
I'm squeamishly optimistic.
Wherever he is, he's probably in need of a nap and a diaper change!
We can't stop here; this is bat country...
So did Urban.
Yes, all coaches do that. But Ryan Day is the current head coach and the subject of the article, which is why I mentioned him. :P
We can't stop here; this is bat country...
Yeah, I get what you’re saying. I hate that statement too. Like quit talking and start doing.
With Urban Meyer, it was "the best I've ever been around".
>.<
We can't stop here; this is bat country...
I don’t think the onside kick did surprise them. They had Downs up front in the middle with a different numbered jersey on to field the kick. Oregon got lucky the ball hit him like it did and bounced back to them.
I think that was their plan.
I thought that was CJ not Caleb?
It was Caleb. Initially on TV I thought they said it was Burke. Guess because of the jersey change no one knew for sure right after the kick
I don't buy one goddam drop of gas in the state of Michigan!
Sounds like David Bell after the Reds lose
Man, I'm glad I'm not the only one that feels that.
I don't expect him to give away game plan stuff on a radio show, but when you just repeat yourself in every situation everyone is going to believe you just don't care.
The Excellence of Execution, the Best there is, the Best there was, the Best there ever will be!
OK, I’M OVER MY STANDARD KNEE JERK, “FIRE THE HEAD COACH, DITCH THE HIGH PAID ASSISTANTS, & TAKE N.I.L,$$ FROM OUR ALL TALK-LITTLE PERFORMING PLAYERS MODE!
WOODY DROVE MY FAMILY CRAZY IN THE 60’s & 70’s, MY UNCLE HAD PUT SEVERAL “WOODY HOLES”, IN THE FRONT DOOR CLOSET, B4 OUR RITUAL RUN TO WHITE CASTLE AT HALF TIME!!
…….but…..IT’S THIS DAMNED PATTERN, GOING BACK vs TOP TIER TEAMS!! LIKE MOST HERE, OUTSIDERS MAY NOT REALIZE HOW BADLY WE NEED TO GET THAT‘CHAMPIONSHIP FEEL’ BACK!!! I’LL NEVER ABANDON THIS TEAM , EVER/NEVER-EVER/NO WAY!!!
SO….LET’S CIRCLE THE WAGONS & START WHOMPIN’ SOME ASS, STATE!!! DAMMIT FELLA’S,
LET’S GET DONE WHAT NEEDS TO GET DONE!!
STATE-45
huskers-17
Roostakog
Please - no shouting in the forum
It interferes with my conspiracy theories thought process
I disagree with Coach Day on one item.
This game should absolutely be a wakeup call. We will struggle against good teams if we don't get a pass rush. Gabriel had all day to throw the ball. Whatever it takes...make the QB uncomfortable and hit him a time or two.
Still ticked about the OPI penalty. The refs allowed physical play the entire game and then decide to throw a flag with 30 seconds left? It reminded me of the hose job the Bengals got against the Rams in the Super Bowl.
What do you think Urban or Saban would say after that game? My guess is they would have more urgency (with both coaches and players) to get some things fixed.
They were not perfect coaches, but both of them won multiple championships for a reason. Expectations and accountability matter.
"It is easy to grin, when your ship comes in and you know you got the stock market beat. But a man worthwhile is a man who smiles, when his shorts are too tight in the seat." -Judge Smails
nuff said
I’m sorry, I can’t hear hippies. - Ron Swanson
Here’s Urban after we got blown out by Purdue which ended up costing us the playoffs:
Q: Obviously some of the issues that flared up tonight we've seen in the past. How surprised are you by this performance?
URBAN MEYER: Very surprised. I thought we had a good week of work. The glaring shortcomings we have were exposed. The number one off the top of my head is our red zone offense. You go down there three times, two field goals and one missed field goal, you’ve gotta score points. We’ve never had this issue. So we’re going to get a real thorough evaluation of that. And the big plays on defense.
Q: The problems are easy to see?
URBAN MEYER: We have good players, good coaches and we’re going to get to work. We lost a game last year and came right back. So we have good guys and we’re going to work our you-know-whats off and get this thing right.
Q: Is there a sense that some things need to be sort of blown up in the next two weeks by you guys or some things that need some drastic change?
URBAN MEYER: I don’t know if it’s blown up. Once again, we’re 7-1 and we’ve got a chance to be 8-1. That’s the only focus. But there’s some serious shortcomings right now we’ve got to get fixed.
https://247sports.com/college/ohio-state/Article/Ohio-State-Buckeyes-foo...
On the McAfee show day before the Oregon game, Saban talked about a loss in high stakes games. He said he always was easy oh his players after a loss in a big game. He “worked them really hard” after a win. Saban didn’t mention how he handled his staff after a loss.
I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize - Steven Wright
This supports a coaching/parenting approach I picked up many years ago
Kick’em while there up
Just what Saban said , expect more, be driven when a persons/teams confidence is up. Be more nurturing, when they are down.
I believe there are 100+ coaches and players (the men in the arena) who are way more disappointed than any fan and want to get better.
Go Bucks!
That’s also a point he made to McAfee. No one is more disappointed and down after a loss than the players. He also emphasize it’s much easier to get players refocused and discipline after a loss than after a big win.
Oregon better watch out. Purdue sucks, but it’s a short week after a big win and they’ve never been to West Lafayette before. That place is a natural downer.
I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize - Steven Wright
I disagree. I think it was actually perfect wording. If he says it's a wakeup call it sends the message that they were performing poorly all year and they weren't. They need to get better but no need to kick a dog when it's down and there was no reason to suggest they were playing poorly prior.
If its not a wake up call then why is he working with his Defensive staff on new ways to get to the QB???
Do people want him or any coach to say "Yeah man, we were shocked at what they were doing and this is a huge wakeup call.. idk what we are gonna do?"
Good grief.
"Khajiit has wares if you have the coin."
I think a little honesty never hurts. To say it didn't wake us up to try something different is just crazy. I bet you we see different things out of our D Line going forward
I agree. I read that full quote and thats sorta what I got from it. Time will tell.
"Khajiit has wares if you have the coin."
Honestly im kinda looking fwd to see what they do
No, I just want the coaches to keep quiet and fix it.
OSUAlumInAZ
A wake up call is when you’re caught asleep at the wheel. They weren’t asleep at the wheel.
Exactly, 74. The Buckeye prep and effort have been there all season. They had the game circled, and did some good things but Oregon also played great and was the better team that night. Both can be true but it’s not like this squad assumed it was invincible and could sleep walk into that game.
"In weightlifting, I don't think sudden, uncontrolled urination should automatically disqualify you."
-Jack Handey
Because there is a difference between a "wake up call" and "identifying areas in need of improvement." I personally don't think this was a "wake up call" because going into the game, the staff knew this was going to be a very tough game. A "wake up call" is when you get totally blindsided in a game that NO ONE forecasted that you had any chance of losing. I'd call the Purdue and Iowa losses a few years back "wake up calls." I'd consider the Alabama loss to Vandy a "wake-up call." A one point road loss to a team a Top 3 team we were only forecasted to beat by three is not a "wake up call."
Exactly
"In weightlifting, I don't think sudden, uncontrolled urination should automatically disqualify you."
-Jack Handey
Is that a little Pike County wisdom?
I kinda disagree with this statement that they’ve been getting after it all year because this was against a #3 team. All other games before Oregon were against unranked teams this year. So it seems like he’s poo-pooing the loss. Like the BSB, I’m kinda concerned about how this team bounces back next week against the Huskers, especially with their QB who can sling it.
TJ1
It better be a wake up call, especially for the defense. We continue to generate 0 pressure on the QB in big game after big game, big plays/blown coverages continue to gash us, not being able to get a stop when we need it - the list goes on.
Not exactly the statement I want to hear out of the HC following a repeat of the same defensive issues from years past
Make ❌ichigan our Bichigan
This^^^^^
The wake up call was the first loss to TTUN three years ago, just keepin it real coach Day.
CBus love
So the 1st cheating loss?
"In weightlifting, I don't think sudden, uncontrolled urination should automatically disqualify you."
-Jack Handey
Unfortunately, people just remember the L or the W.
CBus love
There’s a decent chance that *win gets vacated by the NCAA.
"In weightlifting, I don't think sudden, uncontrolled urination should automatically disqualify you."
-Jack Handey
Ryan Day lost and by saying this loss "isn't a wake-up call" so is this program....
GO BUCKS
Day’s quote regarding Oregon:
"Not a lot of stuff that caught us off guard."
could’ve fooled me, because we couldn’t rush the QB, they were dropping dimes against our secondary, couldn’t anticipate trickeries on both sides of the ball etc…
Also, Oregon practically set us up for success when they botched multiple PAT attempts.
As Tim May would say, but I digress…
In Ryan Day & Ross Bjork We Trust.
For the idiots with no comprehension: a wake up call is what Bama got losing to Vanderbilt. When you go into something too confident and get smoked. OSU losing to Oregon by 1 point is NOT a wake up call moment. It’s a we have some shit to improve upon moment.
Or could be Bama just isnt that good???
That will be a wake up call for cfb. You see, once again something nobody expected. We expected Oregon to be really good.
Um seems like a wake up call when a lot of people foolishly thought this defense was much better than it really is halfway through the season. You don't have to get your ass smoked against a cupcake for it to be a wake up call.
And everyone I would hope already knew that we had a lot of shit to improve on. But we're not. The damn wake up up call is you better try something different because what you're doing isn't working especially against matchup opponents. You want to be the man you got to beat the man. And OSU is NOT beating the men, whether by 1 point or 50.
You said it all when you said people “foolishly thought”. Expectations are the thief of joy.
Maybe we will find out when they play the Vols this weekend. Although the Vols struggled with Florida. The mighty SEC
People are just looking for rage-bait at this point. What a coach says to the media doesnt affect the team and they use coach-speak anyway.
What he says to the team and the adjustments behind closed doors is far more important.
Our fan base is so toxic. Even if we won on Saturday, people would find something to rage about. Some people just don't want to be happy.
My biggest complaint with what he said was on this statement:
“Not a lot of stuff that caught us off guard."
I could have taken the defensive line not getting to the QB a lot better if it was all new stuff Oregon did. Obviously wasn’t. That really irritates me.
Once again, would the media please ask some real questions about the defense. Like:
Why can’t the defensive line pressure the QB?
Is there a rift/disagreements between coaches on the defensive side?
We have heard the defense is getting fixed for several years, what do you think needs done to fix it?
"This is not a wakeup call at all."
Great, we get that. Now quit hitting the snooze button.
Michigan. lol.
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Day said Ohio State needs to win the turnover battle and the rushing battle in matchup games. He added that the Buckeyes also have to limit explosive plays against talented teams. "Those things have to get fixed."
Yeah, that rushing battle would have been won by feeding Trey a little more. Probably could have leaned on the run game some more and ate up clock.
It WAS a fumble. He took 4 steps.
But with Zen in, were they able to run it as effectively as they wanted? Past games, the Lt side was getting a heavy dose of run, because Simmons was playing at elite level. Not surprised that the run game sorta petered out a bit after losing both Tegra and Simmons.
good point
It WAS a fumble. He took 4 steps.
When is someone going to ask him whether he's going to step in and end the feud between Knowles and Larry J? As long as Larry continues to be stubborn and cling to his way of doing things, Knowles will never be able to truly run the defense as he should.
Keels and Lachey might as well be Day family members.
I do not really know that there is any issue between them, but someone should at least ask the question. It is the 800 pound gorilla in the room. And Coach Day can't simply ignore it if there is. That is what he is there for. That said, I probably would not answer the question; it is internal, not public. But the press (journalists) should at least ask.
If your opponent knocks you on your ass, honor the game and RESPECT him. But Gentlemen, no bastard ever won a football game by getting knocked on his ass. You won it by knocking the other poor dumb bastard on his ass and making HIM respect YOU!!
Knowles and LJ have been asked about it in a myriad of ways. They both shoot down the idea that there’s any drama. It all began in 2022 when Knowles put Jack sawyer in the JACK position and he just looked out of place. The same fans complaining NOW, at that time said that sawyer was being wasted ina position he wasnt recruited to play. Which coincidentally was the ONLY gripe that LJ had as well. He felt sawyer and JT were best as hand in the dirt DE’s not the JACK. He was right and Knowles eventually agreed. Since then, they’ve tried to recruit some dudes just for the Jack spot but have missed on the ones they wanted. That’s when fans once again blame LJ, thinking that’s why they can’t recruit them. If they get more than one dude that can play it and excel, we will see it. Or we can just believe Dave biddle and his “sources”.
BULL1215, IF Day finally realizes that this DL's ongoing approach in creating some pressure against quality competition, I would consider that a wake-up call. But what do I know, I'm just an idiot, not a cheerleader.
If you have two people that agree on everything, that only means one of them is not thinking at all.
We're 5-3 in our last 8 games.
0-3 against ranked opponents..
I love Coach Day..... but man, not a wake-up call is pretty weak sauce...
I thought the best thing he did last season was come out swinging after that ND game, team rallied around that..
This just feels like "we'll get em next time"..
And I still don't buy this.. You don't defend an onside kick by putting Caleb Downs in and then have everyone running a kick return but him The tape doesn't lie, we've got 5 guys up on the line, not a hands team, and 4 of them bail immediately.. that's not how you protect against an onside kick.
Go Bucks!!!
Do you really expect a cfb coach to say that losing to Oregon was a wake-up call? C'mon man.
The Buckeyes better wake up.
Lot of mental mistakes and bad defense in the Oregon game.
Ryan Days Buckeye teams are never boring. I’ll give him that.
And rarely, if ever, get embarrassed. There are frustrations but also bright spots. I felt a lot worse after 31-0 Clemson, the 2018 Purdue game and the 2017 Iowa game. At least Oregon was ranked and actually good.
"In weightlifting, I don't think sudden, uncontrolled urination should automatically disqualify you."
-Jack Handey
Concur. I'd rather lose tough close games to folks we are expected to be in a dog fight with, than to lose a game out of left field.
Show me someone who would rather lose tough games and I'll show you a loser!
Back to being serious, I get your point, and those losses are easier to accept, but damnit, I'd rather not lose at all, ever.
Fu(k _ichigan
Neither do I, but let's be realistic: going undefeated is extremely rare, which is why it's such a big deal when it occurs. So I don't expect it, but enjoy it when it does occur. Outsized expectations just bring outsized disappointments. Oregon was always a game that we realistically could have lost. We (the fanbase) just got our expectations a bit too worked up from Oregon's struggles at the beginning of the season. They've obviously corrected them.
I think that I would have moved on quicker from the Oregon loss if it wasn’t for the OPI penalty. It is never great when officiating decides a game.
One way to look at it. We didn’t lose, we just ran out of time.
Who knows? Maybe they'll shock the world and run the table from here on out. Unlike most seasons, there is really no invinvible unbeatable looking team out there. On a neutral field we'd have to be no worse than a coin-flip with anybody even with our obvious flaws and shortcomings.
~We'll Get Em' Next Year~
Texas looking pretty good, but here comes Saturday.
Texas still doesn't strike fear in me like Bama, Georgia, or LSU when they were at the height of their powers. Today's Texas is more like the last two Clemson teams we faced in the Playoffs. A major hurdle but not insurmountable.
~We'll Get Em' Next Year~
I bet the Texas Longhorns will respond to you by saying...."hold our beer". Then again, we will see what happens on Saturday.
You're given them way to much credit. It's still Texas and Sarkisian and Ewers. They've been more snake bit in big games over the years than even us, with way fewer appearances. So no, I'm not ready to crown them champions of anything yet.
~We'll Get Em' Next Year~
Every Saturday is its own box of chocolates.
Texas is the only team I've seen that comes closest to that mark thus far. But it's still a long season.
OSUAlumInAZ
It wasn't a wakeup call for the fans. We have been reading this book since the Clemson game in 2019.
To me, Ryan Day is at the same juncture Urban Meyer was in 2014 after the loss to VA TECH. After that loss, Meyer's Buckeyes had lost 3 of their most recent 5 games going back to the loss to Sparty to determine the Big Ten Champ. Immediately after, they lost to Clemson in the Orange Bowl, QB career-ending injury to Braxton Miller. Then they won their opener in 2014 before losing to VT. In a documentary of that season, Shelley said that Urban told her (very uncharacteristically) after the VT loss that "we are going to be fine". We can only wonder what Ryan Day said to his wife upon getting home from Oregon on Sunday.........
"Babe, get the beard dye - the heavy stuff."
Good one daytrain.
I agree. That was pretty damn clever.
'Wake up call' vs 'work on things' is semantics. The good thing is that we have a bye and can work for two weeks with a bad taste in our mouths.
In reality, any one of a small handful of plays going our way could have changed the outcome of that game. if we stayed at the 29-yard line and booted the FG at the end, nobody would be even be thinking about a wake-up call. The Day staff needs to keep refining in all 3 phases, patch the injury holes, assess the upcoming opponents to the Nth degree, implore these young men to do their assignments every play and win the 1-on-1 battles most if not all the time.
Knock on wood but if we run the table, we probably play Oregon again. That's getting ahead of ourselves but I like our chances.
GO BUCKS!
Screw the Blue (and that gawd-awful yellow)
Was going to say something similar earlier about it becoming a word game of semantics, which can be fun at times but in these cases can be annoying - wake-up call, shocking, surprising, eye-opening, or just well we have a lot to work on. Whatever you want to call it, whether we all had this game circled & knew it would be tough or not, I think it's a wake-up call that OSU D gave up 500 yards of O in less than 27 minutes ToP, did not create 1 TO & almost no impact plays to speak of at all against the Ducks. Yeah we lost by 1 point, & the Offense played extremely well but certainly not perfect or clean but still put up 470 yards & 31 points & still needed a score at the end to win it. We didn't get it so we lost. Oregon's offense is very good, I have no problem saying that. And to give up 300 or even maybe 400 yards, ok, but 500 in 27 minutes. Likely the best offense we see all year but we still have difficult games ahead. Hopefully, Bucks continue to work very hard on the right things & the D can finally get some things really figured out & "fixed" & the O can play just a little cleaner & we will be very difficult to beat. This better be a wake up call because while we still have all of our goals in front of us, if we stumble at all the second half then some of the goals start disappearing.
If once again, lack of physicality and imploding in the 4th isn't a wake-up call, I don't know what is. Six years is one long call. I'd hate to see the bill.
OSUAlumInAZ
Urban was on a talk show recently. He said winning the trenches wins match up games. So simple but day is not a believer.
A fan since the Randy Gradishar days
The humorous thing on this site is that you can't criticize Day without antagonizing the True Believers. Unfortunately the extremes on both ends of the spectrum scream the loudest.
OSUAlumInAZ
Yep. I keep getting blasted for having the audacity to point out our deficiencies on the OL and DL. Those two position groups are hands down the most important groups to the success of a football team. Always has been and always will be. Having Grade A players on the LOS can make a bunch of 3 star skill players look all pro. I love that we have 4 and 5 stars all over the place at the skill positions. It's great. But that gets greatly diminished when we can't control the LOS in crunch time against top teams. I really wish we would recruit OL like we do QB and WR. We have to get our numbers up there. Why can't we develop those 3 and 4 star O linemen ala Iowa and Wisconsin.
"Everyone has a plan, 'til they get punched in the mouth."
Don’t you realize that even coaches from the citadel would say you gotta win the LOS? Doing it is the difference but they all say it. ALL OF THEM
For him not to recognize this as a wake up call is revealing and obtuse. I fear the next close game for this team as their leader is not equipped to guide them through the obstacles because he hasn't done it enough yet.
JBuckI
So what would it take to constitute a wake up call?
Urban calling him at 5:00am and asking “Wake up, man! What the Hell is going on with your defense in big games?”
Ryan Day has a loaded roster. Yes this was a wake up call because your defense was yet again a liability in a big game. It’s ok to admit it’s a wake up call. Go take the bull by the horns and let’s prove to the country how good we are
I'm expecting a rematch with Oregon in the B1G championship, and I expect our Buckeyes will own the night and earn a first round bye.
Sometimes, being humbled makes you better equipped to face the challenges that lie ahead. With all the talk about Natty or Bust, perhaps it's good to get a reminder that it's not as easy as showing up on the field of play with a team stacked with talent.
Memento Mori.
Remember, thou art mortal.
Better to learn this lesson now than in the playoffs. You aren't guaranteed anything.
BubbaGumps
The guys say “hi!” ;)
Sure looked like a wake up call for the defense
He won't state it. But he knows it. Using a reply like, "The focus is on moving forward" is a way of indirectly admitting there were parts of the team that looked like ass.
BubbaGumps
I'm not an excuse kind of person. It's football, you either a do, or do not, nothing else. Something is wrong when you leave a guy in the game who gave up 200 yards in pass defense to the opposing offense. A defense that had not one TFL or a sack. The defensive staff has to find a way to get the defense off the field without giving up points or long drives. New scheme perhaps! Where's the Jack? Are we ever going to see Knowles defense? Nebraska has a dual threat QB and Buckeye history under Knowles has shown that dual threat QB's have good success against his defenses. I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think the Huskers will be an easy out. Offense may have to save the day.
If you can’t make a fourth and one, you don't deserve to win.
I don’t understand why all these multimillionaire 3-D chess playing coaches couldn’t manage the last 10 seconds of the game?
The will to win is not as important as the will to prepare to win. -- Woody Hayes
Mr Spock could do better it seems.
Knowledge isn't free, you have to pay attention
It's always frustrating when our experienced staff gets outcoached by a newbie. I felt that way under Urban in the 2017 Oklahoma game and this last weekend against Oregon. Lanning seemed to be the one that had his team slightly more prepared and was able to master the last 30 seconds of the game. The 12 man thing was cheap, and I hate that it cost us, but up until yesterday it was a legal play. The onside kick was pretty clever, albeit exceedingly lucky. The only reason they tried it was because one of our DBs had a stupid 15 yard penalty on the play before.
We can't stop here; this is bat country...
WTFU!
Spirit
Can't let Oregon beat you twice. Huskers are the task at hand, they are a team you should be able to dog walk over the course of four quarters. But they're absolutely good enough to steal one from you.
Michigan Cheated