“It Should Have Never Come Down to That Situation”: Pass Interference Call, Late Slide Derail Potential Game-Winning Drive in Ohio State’s Loss to Oregon

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Dgeneral's picture

Not Howard's fault.

The coaching staff should have called timeout with 22 seconds left after the PI call. Its their fault for being clueless.

That said the game was lost by the sorry defense. As usual in a big game the defense sucks. why they hired a DC from Okie State is beyond common sense. To keep playing Burke was inexcusable.

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Blackcoffee's picture

Got lost trying to find a #fireholtmann thread ^

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I'm Ron Burgundy's picture

Disagree. If you want to point fingers at the coaching staff it would be that the entire unit was not aware and/or ready to snap the ball once the clock rolling. Not calling TO only cost us 6 secs. You need that TO since it's 25 yds to a 1st down now, but you only need 10 or so to get back in FG range.

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Scioto's picture

I initially felt Day should have called the timeout. I understand why he wanted to hold the TO so he could get the FG team on the field. Were seconds more important that the TO?  Probably. However, the way the game played out, had he taken the TO at 22 seconds, then there would have been no TO when Will slid so lose the game anyway. 
 

Why not run the ball from the 28 and call TO then?  Maybe. But I think Day is thinking about the Georgia game. 
 

Why didn’t the clock reset to 10 seconds with the 12 men on the field penalty?  That’s what I want to know. 
 

Just tough luck at the end. The loss is on the D and Knowles showing again the he can’t dial up stops in the second half of big games. That said, he can’t make the tackles. ONE solo tackle combined registered by Sawyer, Hamilton, Williams and zero pressures/sacks/TFLs. 

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cmented36's picture

It's the coaching staffs fault for not just running to the middle of the field, take the timeout with 5 left and kicking the field goal. The OPI should have never happened and never should have been gambling throwing the ball in at that position where you're already well within field goal range.

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You can't spell chump without UM's picture

If they run it three times and miss the field goal, then you're complaining Day should've been more aggressive. Can't have it both ways. I'd rather put the ball in the hands of the QB who has 326 yards and no INTs throwing to our loaded receiver group than settle for a 45-yard field goal.

R.I.P. Simba

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cmented36's picture

Nope in a 1 point game you trust your kicker, not to mention you have one of the most dynamic backfields in college football so you might pop one even closer. To be conservative all game and then decide to be aggressive is too little too late and it bit them. Run the clock in the middle of the field and kick it. It's smart football in that situation. Was it ticky tack OPI because the corner was trying to jam a bigger receiver? Yes... Should that pass ever be called in that situation? No.

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You can't spell chump without UM's picture

I'm sure you've never complained about Day "trusting his kicker" in a 1-point game against Georgia. Again, you can't have it both ways. Passing was the way to go, especially with a kicker who hasn't attempted many long field goals.

R.I.P. Simba

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cmented36's picture

Different situations as they were different distances. Day tried to pass in that situation also. Then he put the wrong kicker out their vs Georgia as Ruggles had clearly shown his limit was 40 yarders. Fielding drilled a 40 yarders earlier in the game 45 yarder in the middle of the field should be a given and that's saying your top backfield doesn't get any yards at all. Not to mention defense is worried about the pass in the situation to not give up a big play. Bad decision and lost the game because of it.

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EffMarkMay's picture

I know it's MMQBing it, but after calming down for a big game loss once again heavily impacted by the refs, I think that I agree with you that the 'smarter' decision would have been a run play instead of the pass.  You had somewhere around 30 seconds on the clock and a timeout - on top of that, you likely catch UO off guard (they're thinking pass) and a 10 yard gain is way more likely than a fumble/loss of yards.

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Brother Cleotis James's picture

At the 28 with 00:34 left - just kick the 3 pt FG and see if the D can hold Oregon off the last 30 some seconds.
This was fatal judgment to call a pass play at all.
When handed a win, take it.

W 34-32

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buckeyedude's picture

I don't blame Will Howard, at all. This loss is squarely on the defense. Very little pressure. No sacks. They didn't tackle well. I said before the game that our DBs were the most important position group in the 11W poll. Well... they got roasted. This is definitely not the #1 defense. 31 points should be enough for victory. And now our already thin O-line is down a starter. 

I'm squeamishly optimistic. 

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awlinBrutus's picture

Oregon is an offense first team. They are going to put up 400 yards on everyone imo. I didn’t notice anything new last night. What happened to all those nifty mis-direction hand offs in the run game? Other than the opening drive it seemed like the coaching staff was totally confused. All three of our guards got abused. As many times as Oregon had a DL in the backfield on the snap Oregon should have had 8 sacks. Nothing disrupts an offense mor than pressure up the middle. Pretty obvious the staff did a piss poor job getting the offense ready for the crowd noise @ Autzen. We had 5or6 false starts. As hard as it is to admit this loss is on the coaching staff. In my honest opinion. The offensive PI wasn’t a good call. Both players were fighting for position. 

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c11058's picture

More often than not, that DL in our backfield was that Harmon kid.....someone who played for and transfered out of Michigan State.  Is he really that good or did our deficiencies in the O Line allow a Spartan reject to have the game of his career?

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OhioStGoon's picture

Day team's piss down their legs in big game's just like him. At even the slightest bit of adversity/pressure Day looks scared on the sidelines in a way I haven't seen since Cooper roamed the sidelines in Columbus. I'm not calling for Day to be fired BUT I do not forsee Day winning anything of significance going forward and I truly believe the man will not be the coach at tOSU inside of the next 2 year's.

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Nutinpa's picture

You'll get chastised for your post (already happening) and while it is a bit harsh, there is more than a hint of truth to it.  You are your record.  And Ryan Day's record in big games is not good.  It just isn't.  

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NorthBerg's picture

Indeed, having all the talent and experience in the world guarantees you nothing. It also requires focus and a killer's instinct to win big games. There is a common denominator in eerily similar losses to Georgia in 2022, Michigan in 2023, and now Oregon:

Ryan Day and Jim Knowles.

Too much time spent at the North Heidelberg rather than the classroom. SSD 68-72

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OG Buck's picture

You forgot ichigan cheated.

David Peck

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NorthBerg's picture

Then again is Jim Harbaugh still living in our heads rent free?  In 2023 the opportunity for a win against TSUN was squandered on the final drive. There comes a time to look at your own failures instead of looking for excuses.

Too much time spent at the North Heidelberg rather than the classroom. SSD 68-72

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OG Buck's picture

No, they cheated.

David Peck

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OhioStGoon's picture

I love tOSU BUT the truth is the truth and your record is what it says you are and in big game's Ryan Day is a choke artist, in the same vein as John Cooper. I actually see a mutual parting of the waves and Ryan inside of the next 2 year's being where he wants to be and that's in the pro's somewhere as a coordinator with little to no pressure which he thrives in everywhere other than Tosu.

GO BUCKS

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October71922's picture

Way, way, way too many third-down conversions allowed. The DBs were gashed numerous times on third down after decent (not always great) defensive work on the first two downs. Denzel Burke should have been benched when it became apparent almost immediately that he was playing the way he did in the '22 season. He didn't fly around and he certainly couldn't tackle — often seen just 'pawing' at receivers. Others also reverted to high-school style (bad habit) attempts at arm tackling — which is never successful.
Clearly, the Ducks got in his head early and stayed there.
The call/no-call on Jeremiah and Nikko seemed a toss-up that could have gone either way — but we never should have been in that position in the first place. Totally agree that timeout with 22 seconds on the clock would have helped. Clock management remains a problem and that is on Day and Kelly; players aren't allowed to do it themselves.
So, back to "fix everything" or the team resigns itself to an irrelevant bowl game at the end — because Penn State and Indiana are waiting for us.

K. Root, OSU Class of '76

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KP Duty's picture

I kept thinking Burke looks like he did two years ago. I understand trying to strip the ball, but you gotta cover the receiver and tackle!

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mmit's picture

"...The DBs were gashed numerous times..." ????  That kind of implies there were DBs in the area to get gashed.  I didn't see DBs within 10 yards of most of the catches....

O-H

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osufan2002's picture

I voted yes, but the margin for error is now zero.  So much we have to improve to play top teams, starting with clock management.  Sitting at the 30 with 30 seconds to go plus a timeout.  We did not even get to line up for the FG.  That is pathetic, even if the PI was a BS call.  Could have used the timeout to settle down after the PI.  Run couple plays and spike the ball.  Kick and win the game.

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CbusBuck2018's picture

It was 2nd and 25 - we could’ve run one play and spiked the ball. There are so many more things that could’ve gone wrong than right had we taken the timeout after the “OPI”. Howard should’ve just slid at the 30 with 2s left and set us up for a 47yd FG, because the timeout would’ve been granted. As it stands, we should’ve been given the timeout anyways. Inniss was clearly signaling with 0:01 left while Howard’s knee was down. Unfortunate something like that isn’t reviewable. 

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You can't spell chump without UM's picture

Unfortunate something like that isn’t reviewable.

It is reviewable. I've seen it reviewed plenty of times. Most notably in the 2019 Iron Bowl right before the half that allowed Auburn to kick a field goal and they wound up winning by 3. The refs just didn't want to bother clearing the field during the crowd storming, imo.

R.I.P. Simba

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Jcole737's picture

The biggest failure was that Oregon had better player analysis on Burke than our own coaching staff. As if that wasn't bad enough, we allowed them to execute their game plan by exploiting him the entire game. No adjustments whatsoever. They could have benched him, helped with safeties, added more blitz to reduce coverage time, moved him to the slot. Nope, do nothing and hope for the best.

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Texbuckbear's picture
“…No adjustments whatsoever. They could have benched him, helped with safeties, added more blitz to reduce coverage time, moved him to the slot. Nope, do nothing and hope for the best...”

Yes, sir. Can you imagine this former coach allowing this to continue?

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Powell Buckeye's picture

lol  You mean the one who tucked tail and quit after paying athletes became legal and could no longer compete? That one?

lol

Michigan. lol.

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NapervilleBuck's picture

You mean the guy that's 72 years old and has nothing left to prove?

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EZE4TD's picture

At the very least the last play should have been reviewed. With 1 second on the clock, Howard is mid slide around the 29. That's when the play is dead, and everyone was calling TO. Replay guy looked at the fans storming the field and said fuck it.

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tcm1968's picture

It's a rolling clock when you dont get a first down. there's no "dead". It would have been 4th down, the clock just keeps rolling even if you kneel down.

Go Bucks!!!!

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fishleehooker's picture

But we were calling timeout.  The timeout should take effect when he is down. I don't think it woulda mattered but the clock at the end was seriously weird. 

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Buckeyzfan1's picture

Let's keep it at one game out of 16. Go Bucks!

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Meanmistermustard's picture

I thought Burke said “ I’m not coming back for no b/s”.

Sure did look like b/s to me. 
 

“Our Greatest glory is not in never falling. But in rising every time we fall”

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BrutusB's picture

Burke lost a lot of money last night.

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Texbuckbear's picture

The Buckeyes lost a lot of respect.

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Jcole737's picture

I'd estimate about 25 NFL teams just put him on their "do not draft" list. He was exposed big time in terms of tackling, lack of speed, falling for double moves, diagnosing routes.

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jimschehr's picture

 Ducks are a superior team. RCD is nothing more than a fake hype cheerleader and Knowles gets the lump in big games. Overrated team and a roster full of pretenders. 

If you can’t make a fourth and one, you don't deserve to win.

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BrutusB's picture

I don't blame Howard for the ending.  He had a great game overall.  Definitely blame the coaches though.

You have the ball inside of the 30 with a timeout and the game ends without even attempting a FG.  How does that happen? Reminiscent of the UGA game when we could have just run it once or twice to get a little bit closer but managed to shoot ourselves in the foot instead.

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Jcole737's picture

It's unfortunately added to the Day crapping his pants in big games legacy. The O did what it needed to do, but still looked conservative imo. All the issues with D have been hashed out, but how about just letting it rip at some point?

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BrutusB's picture

They didnt even need to let it rip. I've had to listen to announcers tell me how Judkins and Henderson are best buddies who support each other in every game this year, but when we really need like 5-10 yards we can't get a single rush up the middle? Really?

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wyatt's picture

Reminded me of Dak Prescott doing the same thing for Dallas. Sliding into 2nd base with no time left. Clock management was bad, OL penalties late in the game. Botched hike by Howard. DE crashing in instead of containment. So many mistakes at critical times. 

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Killer nuts's picture

I’ve seen this sentiment a lot since last night: “why didn’t we just run the ball, use the timeout and kick the FG?” What’s humorous to me is when Day called a running play against Georgia in basically the exact same scenario, everyone criticized him for it and used it as the example for why he blew it, and yet now that’s the exact strategy people wish he had used this game. It’s almost as if the hindsight of knowing whether a call was successful or not is really what decides if people think Day made the best choice… Basically, if it works he’s great and if it doesn’t he should be fired. If there’s no PI called then we’re on the 20 and still have our timeout. I’m sure if we had run it and got a holding penalty people would be losing their mind about not throwing it

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Ambivalent_Buckeye's picture

We were also gashing them in the air that drive. Will was 4/4 for 56 yards on the previous 4 plays and Oregon was on their heels defensively

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Killer nuts's picture

Exactly, and we had 19 yards on 12 rushes in the second half. The play calling was not the problem at the end of the game

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EZE4TD's picture

OMG, logic and reason!!! Get it off this site immediately.

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Killer nuts's picture

Haha, apologies! I’ll go back into my hole and look for my pitchfork

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BrassBuckeye's picture

I get that we're upset, my son and I were text/talking the whole game (love that.)  Anyway... here's a thought.  We were fortunate at the beginning of the game where that replay for whatever reason did not stop play and review the catch that was then stripped away.  If I was a Duck fan, I would be fuming.  We got up to the line and played before they stopped action, and would eventually score our first td.  In one sense, that score never should have taken place.  This game was an amazing back and forth game between two outstanding teams.  We went into their house, and only lost by one point.  Hate the pi against Smith that pushed us out of fg range, and hate that we didn't catch a break in getting credit for the timeout with less than a second left... but here we are.  The sky is NOT falling.  I am disappointed that our D had 0 sacks and 0 turnovers.  If anything, take a page out of the Ducks book, and when things are bunched up, you know the runner/receiver IS going to get tackled, focus on stripping/ripping the ball out.  Simmons loss was huge, and for a quarter 2 of 5 starters on the offensive line were replaced, and yet we still did pretty well.  Joel Klatt earlier either this week or last said "theoretically" OSU and Oregon could play each other 3 times this season.  So... for me, here's one positive... I think OSU will have the edge on hunger/anger/fire for that rematch compared to the Ducks.  These are two great teams, and that was one heavy weight fight that went back and forth.  Please... let's stop heaping the hate on Knowles and Day.  I'm still of the persuasion this can be a NC "take it all" team by season's end.  If our last NC team experienced a humiliating loss to VT, and then  we know the results that happened after... maybe this loss is what we need to shake off all the "you guys are the greatest defense and offense"... well, PROVE IT.  Stop reading headlines... and dig in.   This is what many of the vets came back forth... get after it.  Work harder than anyone... practice harder than anyone... fuel your anger with this loss and let it motivate you to be THE ONLY ONE OF THE SEASON.  I personally think... THEY CAN!  GO BUCKS!!  (And i repeat... the sky is not falling.)

BrassBuckeye

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Garbage Dog's picture

Thank you for this comment ^. This is the speech Day should give to the team. 
I thought we had 2 BS procedure calls called on us on that one drive and there was PI on Smith, not by Smith twice in the 4th quarter. 
If the bye earlier in season was in a bad place, this bye is coming at just the right time.
On to the second half of the season. Beat EVERYBODY! Especially beat tcun! Then beat that team out northwest in Indianapolis. 

Go by what I mean, not by what I say.

LEAVE NO DOUBT!

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Tatum_Hit's picture

What can you say, It's BIG GAME DAY, well that and your no pressure no sacks no picks $2 mil man DC.

CFW

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3ydncloudofdust's picture

Serious question; we were in FG range before the PI call on Smith. We were on the right hash. Why not a run call left, take your TO and kick the FG? Did we get greedy?

I’m sorry, I can’t hear hippies. - Ron Swanson 

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Jcole737's picture

Has to be lack of faith in our kicker over 45 yards. I think we were around 35. Kick from 35 yard line is 52 yarder with endzone and snap.

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BrutusB's picture

Yea I’m fine with them moving, just strongly disagree with the play calls. Kicker distance is an area where the coaches have a lot more info than we do. If the kid misses 8/10 times in practice from that distance you can’t just assume he’s “good for 47” just because he hit it one time on television. 

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3ydncloudofdust's picture

52 is the new 40, isn’t it?

I’m sorry, I can’t hear hippies. - Ron Swanson 

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3ydncloudofdust's picture

Looks like I have a stalker. Well here’s another. I thought it was funny anyway. 

I’m sorry, I can’t hear hippies. - Ron Swanson 

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wyatt's picture

Poor coaching decisions. 

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JoeCleveland's picture

Don't forget we lost to VaTech the first year the playoff started.   We got better for the experience and won the Nat'l Title.    Don't get down too much.   Lot's of football to be played and time to get much better.   Despite Burke getting toasted 3 times for big plays and the horrible clock management at the end of the game they were still in a position to win the game.     

JoeCleveland

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Optimistic Buckeye Pessimist's picture

Oregon deserved to win. Hopefully we get another shot at them. 

Read my entire screen name....

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Wolverine_Killer's picture

This game was so disappointing on so many levels
 

  • "BIA" was more like "MIA" (And we all know the #1 reason why that is.)
  • The "Silver Bullets" looked more like the "Silver Blanks", which was hilariously highlighted by the guy on Defense that arguably played with the most fire. He came on a blitz and hit the blocker so hard that he mysteriously transferred the bulk of the impact to....HIMSELF!
  • It seemed more often than not that Oregon's D knew what we were going to do. It's almost like Chip Kelly called the play for us and then got on the horn to Oregon's D-Coordinator to say, "Psssst!!! Hey buddy!!!!! Here's what we're runnin'!" Ridiculous.
  • "Mighty Mouse" had all night to do whatever the F he wanted. Have dinner, text his girl in the stands, "Hey babe, how do I look?", scratch his balls, pick his nose and wipe it on the closest defender that could never quite get there, "Hey JT!!!! Here's mah boog!!!" and then deliver a strike. ALL!!!! NIGHT!!!! LONG!!!!
  • Why did we go into the portal for a RB again? The RB1 we already had clearly did most of the heavy lifting, but didn't get the TD to go with it. Here's your coughdrop, Q.
  • Will Howard has what I thought was his best game for us yet, only to have two HUGE miscues. A botched snap and then the play at the end. Now I don't blame him for this loss at all, but sooooo frustrating.
  • In spite of a close score, more often than not it looked like both Lines got absolutely dominated.

Now for praise, rather than criticism. Emeka Egbuka, we will miss you. You were clutch when we needed points. Jeremiah Smith, you already know you're a beast. Tre, you're a warrior. Gee Scott, you showed you're the baller that I always knew you could be.

This one stings. 

Downvote away, boys.

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cincybuck1312's picture

The only thing I don't agree with is the Q comment. I'm glad we have him to keep Tre from accumulating too much mileage and risking another season-sabotaging injury. Otherwise I think your reads were amusing, no down vote needed from me.

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Wolverine_Killer's picture

I didn't really expect anyone to take much of what I said all that seriously, even myself. I'm mainly salty because of the outcome, even if some of what I said bears some semblance of truth. I like Judkins and thought he'd do a lot better than he did, that's all. He didn't really show up in that game, and it kind of surprised me. He provides needed depth and I'm glad we have him. I just hope he brings his A-game going forward, that's all.

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tcm1968's picture

Buckeyes had dialed up a flood concept to the boundary.

After re-watching the final drive I'm starting to think Kelly didn't know we had a timeout left. Any other year we wouldn't have one but the 2 minute warning left us with one. Everything he did was toward the sideline. When we got within FG range he was still forcing the ball to the sideline, even though the middle of the field was wide open.

It would also explain why after the offensive PI the clock just drained before he could get the play call in to Howard..

I thought Kelly called a good game, minus those last two drives once we got into their territory.. he abandoned everything that got him there.

Go Bucks!!!

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McLovin2.0's picture

Ryan Day is a big game loser. Period.

What, are you trying to be an Irish R&B singer??

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mmit's picture

The evidence supports this statement.  Look at W-L on top 5.  It's not good, and keepign it close is not good enough.

O-H

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OldTownBuckNut's picture

I mean, we were never in a position where the game was out of control. Ever. I’m not sure what was going on with Burke last night, but he is a stellar player who had a bad night. It happens. We’ve been conditioned by every season to believe it’s over now, but it’s just getting started. We’ll probably slide to five and life moves on. You will never find a more bizarre last minute of a game than last night. The mob that stormed the field prevented us from being given our last time out. It’s inexcusable. And the refs and Oregon will be reprimanded and fined, but it’s over now. I think we needed to call that TO when the play clock started moving after the BS OPI call. The referees are supposed to blow a whistle to indicate the clock is moving again. I don’t know if that was a brain fart on their part but Day should have called the TO. Oh well. It was, as they say, a series of unfortunate events. It was a bizarre game from start to finish and one that we win 8 out of 10 times. Oregon is just desperate to be relevant. Desperate. And it shows. 

Round on the ends and "HI" in the middle. O-HI-O.

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Powell Buckeye's picture

what really sucked was the kickoff that bounced off our guy at the 50 and they recovered, eventually scoring a TD.

Michigan. lol.

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OG Buck's picture

I knew something was up on that play. I thought they were going to kick it straight up. They had practiced that scenario & were prepared. We were not.

Go Bucks!!!

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Skunk bear blood's picture

Play the Ducks in the BIG championship.
Beat the Ducks and then onto the Playoffs.
 

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SunStBuckeyes's picture

Umm no East/West.  We have the run the table, beat Nebraska, Penn St, Indiana and that TTUN to get a rematch.  Margin for error is gone.

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Knarcisi's picture

There’s no East-West any more. That said, Penn St is now a must win game. 

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KrenzelKrazy's picture

After rewatching the last drive, it’s clear that Oregon put 12 guys on the field to play and banked on the refs not calling an illegal participation penalty (which is 15 yards) instead of the illegal substitution penalty called. That was after the bs OPI call. Once again, we get hosed by poor officiating. 
 

P.s. nepo baby Noah Eagle is not his father and Todd Blackledge is a Nittany Lion who despises us. Oh, and shitty refs shouldn’t be allowed just because we had a bad D all night. 

“We've always had the best damn band in the land; now we got the best damn TEAM in the land” -Jim Tressel

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mmit's picture

The only thing worse than Denzel Burke's play last night was his body language.  That guy could have cared less about what was transpiring.  Gotta luv this new NIL model!  If I already had a multi-million $$ portfolio and a chance at an even BIGGER payday in a few months, you better believe I'd be protecting myself as priority # 1....  Also, on a totally unrelated note, I've seen enough of Will Howard to know for certain he seems like a great kid and a very fierce competitor but we will not win a Natty with him.  He has made some god-awful throws into direct and double coverage (mostly games 1 thru 5) and he continues to make bone-head plays at critical times (missing perfect snaps, etc.).  He will not be able to get us past Georgia.  Just too many inexplicable flaws at times of stress.

O-H

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Alpine Buckeye's picture

Way too early to make this take on Howard. He was not the issue last night, he completed 80% of his passes, 2 TD passes with zero turnovers and a rushing TD. The OPI, the weird non-timeout at the end, Denzel Burke pulling a Shawn Wade, the defense’s lack of pressure on Gabriel, Simmons’ injury all were far worse happenings than Howard’s night. The QB played more than well enough to win, most of the rest of the team did not. 

And when we win the game, we'll buy a keg of booze!

And we'll drink to old Ohio 'til we wobble in our shoes!

Ohio, Ohio!

We'll win the game or know the reason why!

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Bucksfan's picture

If something doesnt get fixed, Indiana is going to light our secondary on fire.

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wilkins0802's picture

I really thought once we were in Fieldings range, a couple runs here, a timeout there, field goal, we escape. Boom we got this, and then we kept throwing…

Truth & Courage, 1-17IN, 5/2 SBCT

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Ortonhallalumni's picture

It was pass interference by Smith, Jesus, just get a few yards and kick the fg....How pathetic...that ladt drive shows how poorly clock management and not realizing the rules when a clock starts after a penalty....God we had that game after all the mistakes and bonehead plays...thats so frustrating...

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Ortonhallalumni's picture

It was pass interference by Smith, Jesus, just get a few yards and kick the fg....How pathetic...that last drive shows how poorly clock management and not realizing the rules when a clock starts after a penalty....God we had that game after all the mistakes and bonehead plays...thats so frustrating...

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Nuangola's picture

The Buckeyes are still their own worst enemies. Third and long for the ducks, no problem. Just throw a slant or a crossing route. Easy conversions.

Where was Burke's back up?

Why did we let the clock run down at the end of the game?

Who the hell can fix the defense? Poor tackling, poor reads, out of position, no sacks, no real qb hits.

The Buckeyes are better than that performance. It was a calamity of errors and missed opportunities.

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ATLBUCK's picture

Look. Let's get real. Whatever mistakes were made before the six second disaster, you don't run around and just let Oregon stand there  and watch the clock run down. Take a knee if you have to with a few seconds left and try to come up with a Hail Mary pass. Also, where was the pass defense ? Too many wide open Oregon receivers.

Atlanta Buckeye

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Nuangola's picture

This is not how championship teams play football.

The Buckeyes gift wrapped this victory to Oregon.

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RickJazzMan's picture

Agreed ATLBUCK, this was mismanaged in the waning seconds of the game. Also, I take issue with the zone defense in the backfield. Call me simplistic if you will, but I am more of a believer in man-for-man coverage. Yeah, I know, all or most of other collegiate teams use zone coverage and, for that matter, so do most NFL teams. So what. It's not working for us, so it's time for some changes in pass coverage. Coach Knowles seems to understand this when he said that no aspect of the Buckeye defense was outstanding last night.

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Mantis's picture

It's not Day's fault and it's not Howards.  Anyone saying otherwise is simply wrong.  There are three things you could blame.  

1.  Terrible defense/Knowles/Johnson

2.  Denzel Burke

3.  The late screw job by the refs (3 incorrect/wrongly officiated things in the last 30 seconds)

That's literally it.  The first two things can hopefully be corrected in time to save the season.  The last is obviously out of our control. 

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a45c13z15's picture

"It should never come down to that situation." That's the blind spot Day has. In a big game it usually comes down to that kind of situation. You make a play or you don't in clutch time with the game on the line. 

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RonnyPBuckeye's picture

There is certainly plenty of blame on the coaching side but at the end of the day there were a few plays where our experienced kids just didn't execute.  Howard dropping the snap on 3rd and 3 when we were up 6 was a huge play.  If we go up two scores there, I don't think we lose.  JT crashing down on the tailback (the rest of our D line had it stopped) instead of keying on his responsibility (Gabriel) would've held the Ducks to a FG attempt versus TD.  Tre trying to bounce outside instead of just getting the one yard he needed on 3rd down.  I won't bother piling on Burke further but they just didn't get it done...

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Nuangola's picture

We didn't earrn the win. That's for sure.

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Maestro's picture

Learn from it for the next time.  Moving on, win the rest of them.

vacuuming sucks

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CbusBuck2018's picture

Well said, and all that’s needed. 

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RickJazzMan's picture

To paraphrase the late, great Wayne Woodrow "Woody" Hayes, " We got beat by a better team, one point better." Coach Hayes spoke these words - or some analogous prose - after a heartbreaking 18-17 loss to USC in the January 1, 1976 Rose Bowl Game.

First up, I have to congratulate the Oregon Ducks and their coaching staff who, respectively, played a great game and called great plays. The Ducks executed well and made fewer mistakes down the stretch than our Buckeyes, particularly in the closing moments of the game. Having Oregon in the BIG 10 is a big boost to our conference. Playing them year-in, year-out should sharpen the Buckeyes' skills and ready them to face other formidable opponents.

Once again, the downside is that our Buckeyes played good enough to win, but...........I see what appears to be the continuation of a tendency in the last few years to come very close to winning clutch games against our best opponents only to come up short in the final analysis. Consider the championship game against Georgia two years ago and the game against Michigan last year. I have seen this movie before, more times than I care to remember over many decades.

At the same time, the upside is Ohio State played well enough to win and a one-point loss to one of the top teams in the nation will not keep our Buckeyes out of the playoffs. This game was our first real acid test and there will surely be more as the season goes on, e.g. Penn State, Michigan and probably other playoff teams. To make the most of any playoff opportunities and, ultimately, to previal and scale the summit, Coach Day, his assistants and players must learn from this loss and make necessary improvements. This will probably be a long season, but one full of opportunity if the Buckeyes can seize the moment.

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BucksRoger's picture

Burke stunk, Knowles didn’t dial up any pressure, Day floundered in another big close game.

just run it down their throats

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RC's picture

It's amazing that Day still has defenders on here. Have we really resigned ourselves to always being second best in the big games? Day will never get it done.

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Jcole737's picture

He needs to change. You can see him tighten up and call conservative O and D. Many, not all, of the players seem to mimic coach in these games. I think back to the Urban story about coach Bruce telling him to let it rip. I feel like Day needs someone to tell him that ahead of one of these games. Air it out on O. Bring the house on 3rd down on D. Don't do stupid stuff like declining a 1st down penalty against the O or taking knees into half against UM with plenty of time left.

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RC's picture

I agree, but this is his 6th year and he has yet to change. It ain't happening at this point. Hopefully they move on after this season. I really don't want to lose to TTUN, but the silver lining would be that they'd almost certainly fire him if that happens. Hopefully it won't take a loss in that game for it to happen.

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OhioStGoon's picture

Facts!! There's no way in Hell you can defend the choke artist coach Ryan Day truly is at this point. Again I'm not necessarily calling for him to get fired BUT I do not, have not and will never believe the man is winning anything of significance in Columbus ever again and that both him and tOSU will have a mutual parting of the ways within the next 2 year's, with him heading off to the pros as a coordinator.

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Ozdragon's picture

Prior to the hiring of Urban Meyer the Buckeyes in 100 years of fooball never lost a game in which they scored 30 or more points. Last night we scored 31 and the defense gave up 32.. Knowles is unable to coach string run defense and can't seem to put pressure on QBs. We score 30 we should win!

Clock management wes poor. Why did Day use a TO at about 2:20 in the 4th when he knew there was a game TO at 2:00?

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OhioStGoon's picture

Because he clinches up in big game's and because of that I truly believe he'll NEVER win anything of substance going forward as well as him NOT being the coach inside of the next 2 year's. Ryan Day like Holtman were BAD hires and one is gone and the other will be following him out the door soon.

GO BUCKS

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Beauregard's picture

My count was 5 illegal procedure and 3 pass interference penalties. And there might have been a couple illegal procedures that weren't called.

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Tresselball4life's picture

I think people forget how important kazmerak and Simmons are to the running game.  It changed the play calling.  The second half running game was so bad they went for a short pass and got an OPI.   

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UpIrons's picture

I said this on another article but seems more appropriate here. What if the Oregon penalty they took for having a 12th man on the field was on purpose? Maybe they knew it would just eat clock and we screwed ourselves even more by not realizing the clock doesn't stop for that kind of a penalty. Oregon coaches are playing chess and we were playing checkers on that last drive.

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keyshawn_buck77's picture

It was definitely intentional, and the refs called the correct penalty, illegal participation, the Bucks would get the time back and 15 yards.

https://www.teamspeedkills.com/2010/8/10/1614007/know-your-annoying-pena....

Not sure Day knew the rule in the moment. Refs sure didn't.

Feeling cold is psychological. - Woody Hayes

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Icouldnotgofor3's picture

Ok homers........Have you seen enough from Day? A consolation may be we get another game with them in Indy if the chips fall right.

Day has a NFL caliber team and can't win against a 38 year old snot coach who now thinks he just won the super bowl........Have you had enough?

Saban on a cart eating cold pizza

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Ortonhallalumni's picture

That defense is not nfl caliber...They never had a sack or pressire on the Qb...again...burke burned so much it seemed like he had money on the ducks...

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Buckeye Hill's picture

Burke, was bad like Kalen King on Marv last year. 

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