Not convinced they will not still be cheating. All parties that were cheating still on the field. They still have the information collected. What keeps them from sending the info through the headsets to the OC and DC prior to each play? Hell Stallions might be in the stands with a mic patched into them. Or someone with the cheat sheets in the coaching boxes telling them what to do. That is why the group of HC, DC and OC all should be off the field and in their hotel during the games. Don't trust those cheating f***kers.
In the past, teams weren’t aware just how big the cheating was by TCUN and that they had everything. PSU has had time to adjust their signs. Vegas favors PSU, so there is something there that Vegas sees.
I'm really interested to see what PSU does to cover their signals. It seems doable on offense, although not costless, to prevent sign reading by running a receiver onto the field with each play and/or using wristbands.
However, I don't know what you do to not signal defensive calls, so that could be an area where Michigan has a huge "completely legal or if not legal then immaterial advantage". Michigan was in one score games with us, Penn State, Purdue, and many other teams last year before going on absolute scoring runs in the second half. Michigan's offense struggled against freaking Purdue (see 63-7 against LSU later that month) before rolling off 14 points in 10 plays to start the second half. Michigan fans would argue that it was their Joe Moore award-winning offensive line (see two 7th round picks and a 5th round pick over the last two years, clearly a talent juggernaut that Ohio State can't hold up against; I mean, we held our own against Notre Dame (see Joe Alt), Georgia (see Broderick Jones), Penn State (see Olu Fashanu), but when we face two 7th round draft picks and a 5th round draft pick, why, that's a level of talent/future insurance salesman that gives a defensive line with 4 projected Day 1/2 draft picks no shot (yes I'm still salty that an offensive line that was manhandled by a mediocre TCU 3-3-5 created this "toughness" narrative by using illegal means to steal our signals). I guess the question is whether, minus Stalions and Harbaugh, Michigan still has the outfit to use their extensive pre-game scouting footage to decrypt opposing defensive signals by the 2nd half.
With multiple signalers, it takes a while for the cheaters to determine the 'hot' signaler. We have enough great WRs and RBs to bring in plays without sacrificing offensive production. It would minimize exposure of our signals. On defense, it might be a little harder since the playcalls depend on the offensive formations. They'll need to figure out a different way... maybe change up some of their calls, change the hot caller, etc. I'm sure they'll figure it out.
Time to go back to the good old days before tcun cheated and the normal was Penn State beating them on a regular basis. I see them going back to their 3 or 4 losses a season form.
After reading and now digesting the B1G’s letter to UM, my biggest takeaway is the the University of Michigan itself was fine with letting their football team continue to reap the benefits of cheating. Two points stood out to me:
1. UM didn’t even suspend Connor Stalions until 2 days after the NCAA informed them of the illegal scheme, and then only after the NCAA came back and said ‘hey are you gonna do something about that guy?’
2. UM didn’t want the B1G to warn their upcoming opponents of the illegal scheme. On p3 Petitti says it was only after much discussion and insistence on his part.
This means that if the football coaches and staff still have unfairly gained information at their disposal, the University of Michigan will let them use it with impunity. There will be no self monitoring.
I guess I was naive. I guess I thought too highly of my fellow humans. No more.
I still find it stunning that a major university, previously held in high regard academically, at least, would be so blatantly callus toward honesty and integrity and sportsmanship. From the top down?!
I still have a hard time coming to terms with this, and I’m not being hyperbolic or grandstanding. That is my sincere reaction: WTF Ono?! Seriously? No seriously?!
How can ANYONE, from janitor to tenured professor, keep working at an institution that doesn’t care about basic fairness and morality?!
Gfounds, morality? Didn't you know we live in the greatest country in the world? Morality is the least approach with many of our fine citizens. That is why we are in the mess we are in.
WE ARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 2 more qts. to come back against the cheaters.
One thing that makes me laugh is that the information came from inside the michigan program... not Ryan Day, Ryan Day's brother the PI or Rutgers, Purdue or anyone else. It came from MICHIGAN. It said "at least 3 University officials attending NCAA interviews." The NCAA was interviewing michigan staffers. This was around the time all the michigan excuse-makers were boasting they couldn't be interviewing the coaches because they were in East Lansing gearing up for the game.
It came from multiple people inside the michigan program after all.
It is not just cowardice in my opinion. They have gone full-DARVO through all of this like any narcissist trying to avoid accountability. Pile of both really mortared with heaps of arrogance.
Hi Frimmel! I wanted to UV you and respond briefly. I fully agree it cannot excluded by any means that Jimmy suffers from a nacrissist personality disorder. Especially malignant narcissists tend to compensate feelings of inadequacy with an overblown sense of self-importance and literally are not able to understand the concept that right and wrong might apply to them. They see the world as consisting of themselves and everyone else, who are but objects to be used to substantiate their self-importance, subsequently to be discarded when they no longer satisfy this purpose. Immorality and even illicit behavior cannot apply to them because they want to see themselves as above these concepts. Nothing I have seen concerning Jimmy over the past 20 years would refute the aformentioned.
"The minute we stop expecting greatness, we become Wisconsin."
The story about 131 WWII vets dying every day hit a nerve, especially how it opens: my old man was with the Marines on Iwo Jima. He died at 53; if he was still alive, he’d turn 100 later this month. Like many veterans of that war, he never talked about it but in hindsight, it’s clear he suffered from PTSD and not talking about it was probably a mechanism many vets used to try to forget it. It’s great to see their stories are being recorded; they deserve to be told and remembered.
Thank you to all who have served to defend our country and protect our freedoms.
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke
Iwo Jima had to be pure hell. Not that battles in all wars aren't pure hell, but man o man the footage from Iwo and Tarawa... my God it was horrifying. God bless our veterans.
Hope Penn state shoves one of those shitty vacuums right up Blake corums ass. Bunch of scumbags up north. Hope stallions has his tickets to the prison sex his bitch ass team is about to experience.
I read excerpts from UMs letter to the B1G - hard to read because it had no facts and just threatened. I was thoroughly impressed with the B1G's letter to UM. It sounds as though UM has pissed off the B1G and NCAA. I am very interested in how the refereeing will be in PSU and TCUN. TCUN cannot be allowed to reap the rewards of their cheating; they need to reap the consequences of their actions.
I hope my buckeyes never feel the need to cheat to win. I’d rather root for a try hard team that comes up short than a dominant cheater. That all of this came to light basically on Veterans Day makes it extra special for myself and I’m sure the other buckeye veterans. GO BUCKS!! It’s a great day to be a buckeye.
First of all, shout-out to my late father, SSG Snook, The Ohio State University class of '41, who served with distinction in WWII with the 7th Armored Division. If you want to read up on a unit that saw some stuff, read their history. I have sports heroes, but none of them hold a candle to my father. Miss you pops.
Is OSU beatable? In the most technical sense of the word, sure. But at some point improbable teeters on the brink of impossible, and Ohio State is the fat kid that's about to secretly slip off the teeter toter and let the skinny kid dressed in green and white slam his ass on the harsh concrete of reality. Bucks by a metric ton.
Also, screw those cheaters up north. The only thing I hate more than a sanctimonious asshole who has dipped themselves in a color closer to urine than corn is a cheater who pretends to earn their titles through merit instead of treachery. Go Penn State!
Rant over.
To err is human. Really sucking requires having yellow stripes on your helmet.
My father served in the U.S. Navy in the Pacific Theatre during WWII. The Greatest Generation. So grateful and respectful for all US vets.
BTW, if you love WWII history as I do, there's a really good Steven Spielberg movie coming out in January called "Masters of the Air," on Apple TV, about US bomber pilots flying over Nazi Germany. The trailer looks really good!
Masters of the Air is part of Spielberg’s and Tom Hanks collaboration that produced Band of Brothers and The Pacific. I’m assuming it will be a more graphic and violent version of The Memphis Belle.
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke
The part of me that grew up during the 10-year War, suffered thru the Cooper years, and then got to see Tressel & Meyer dominate That Team is sad that this great rivalry has been so badly damaged by the actions an overzealous, fanatical super-fan and a desperate, narcissistic coach.
Michigan is no longer a great and worthy rival that I can take great joy in watching our team defeat on the field. They’re a sad, pathetic clown show.
I love the all-gray with scarlet numbers unis. Toyt! I like them better than the all-black or all-white-cocaine alt unis. I'm feeling really gray, today.
This MSU team is bad. It's always good to respect your opponent, but I don't think this MSU team could survive the MAC. Let's go Buckeyes Nuts! Poison the Spartans.
I won’t upvote this, because it doesn’t feel good to cheer one’s demise as a principle, but I believe you may be correct.
Perhaps he gets to be on the sidelines for a bowl game, but I think the hammer which has been accumulating will drop before next year and the school will see he’s not worth the bother and the damaged reputation.
It’ll take awhile to rebuild their reputation but the first step they need to take is severing all ties with the entire coaching staff. A clean slate is the only path for them. But will they do that?
Expecting James Franklin to deliver the skunks head on a platter is something like a movie where an incompetent bumbling fool is required to do something important and fails. Penn State can and will beat them, but James Franklin has to smother those game day decisions he makes that end up blowing up in his face. no trick plays or gimmicks. Just go straight at them for 4 quarters. even I am surprised at the way Michigan is handling the situation. They are completely defiant and are now the victims and in a national circle jerk led by Tom Brady and that douchebag from barstool making shirts that say “bet” on them. I do truly believe that in the end this will be what if anything delivers the death penalty to their program. With one voice they are all saying that they’re just going to leave the conference and becoming independent. It sounds a lot like when celebrities say they are leaving the country if so and so is elected or something. The Canadians don’t want you either. They bitch about due process, but this is absolutely not the judicial system, the NCAA took the extraordinary move to reach out to all the members of the conference as has been pointed out previously. How can it be possible that they believe that the entire conference agreed with one voice that Jim Harbaugh, and those cheaters up north did wrong, and yet they are somehow claiming irreparable damage? We were the victims of their crimes along with anybody else they played over the past several years. We can never get those losses back, and all the heartache From the ill gotten scheme, we are all irreparably damaged and should have standing to sue them for irreparable damage, pain and suffering, libel and deformation. We have the receipts! Go Penn State!
Happy Veterans Day to all who served! Happy Veterans Day to my Dad who made me and my brothers the biggest damn Buckeye fans he could! Go Bucks, and Fuck michigan
I'm actually surprised just how far Michigan is going to fight all of this. It shows a remarkable lack of professionalism and respect.
If Ryan Day's staff was found to be cheating, and spending football budget to do so, he'd be fired on the spot, I have no doubt. Tressel stepped down to avoid being fired for lying to the NCAA about playing players he knew sold their personal trophies, and therefore to gain an advantage on the field. I dont remember Ohio State fighting the penalties or slamming the NCAA or the Big Ten during that fiasco.
And now all their dipshit players are doubling down, too? You fuckers cheated against Ohio State! If there is an afterlife, you better be ready to meet Bo and Woody as the first faces you see.
What has become clear is the head job Ohio State did to Michigan and their supporters over the past 20+ years. They truly believe they are a superior program and it’s their divine right to win. After going through multiple head coaches, it became clear that they weren’t going to beat Ohio State playing by the rules. Also, Harbaugh was on the brink of being fired and no one in the NFL wanted him. This set the perfect conditions to open the door for acceptance to cheating. Michigan sees what is coming their way from the NCAA and is all in on protecting the season in hopes to win a national championship. Even if it destroys the program for years to come. Vacating wins in the future doesn’t matter to them. They will have the “memories” of seeing it play out on the field. It’s a sad story because outside of dominating bad teams, there is no indication that Michigan will complete with the elite teams. Look how difficult it has been for Ohio State, even with some great teams.
Killing time until our game this afternoon by going to the UW-Utah game. The weather is horrible, so am not looking forward to it as much as previously. We'll see if Penix can throw it all over the place in these conditions. Go Bucks, screw Blue, and thanks veterans!
My aim, then, is to whip the Weasels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom. - William Tecumseh Sherman (with apologies)
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The Cheaters Up North are going down today, PSU is about to take them out to the woodshed and beat their asses. It's a bad day to be a wolverine.
Any time you give a man something he doesn't earn, you cheapen him. Our kids earn what they get, and that includes respect - Woody Hayes
Not convinced they will not still be cheating. All parties that were cheating still on the field. They still have the information collected. What keeps them from sending the info through the headsets to the OC and DC prior to each play? Hell Stallions might be in the stands with a mic patched into them. Or someone with the cheat sheets in the coaching boxes telling them what to do. That is why the group of HC, DC and OC all should be off the field and in their hotel during the games. Don't trust those cheating f***kers.
In the past, teams weren’t aware just how big the cheating was by TCUN and that they had everything. PSU has had time to adjust their signs. Vegas favors PSU, so there is something there that Vegas sees.
GeorgiaBuckeye
I'm really interested to see what PSU does to cover their signals. It seems doable on offense, although not costless, to prevent sign reading by running a receiver onto the field with each play and/or using wristbands.
However, I don't know what you do to not signal defensive calls, so that could be an area where Michigan has a huge "completely legal or if not legal then immaterial advantage". Michigan was in one score games with us, Penn State, Purdue, and many other teams last year before going on absolute scoring runs in the second half. Michigan's offense struggled against freaking Purdue (see 63-7 against LSU later that month) before rolling off 14 points in 10 plays to start the second half. Michigan fans would argue that it was their Joe Moore award-winning offensive line (see two 7th round picks and a 5th round pick over the last two years, clearly a talent juggernaut that Ohio State can't hold up against; I mean, we held our own against Notre Dame (see Joe Alt), Georgia (see Broderick Jones), Penn State (see Olu Fashanu), but when we face two 7th round draft picks and a 5th round draft pick, why, that's a level of talent/future insurance salesman that gives a defensive line with 4 projected Day 1/2 draft picks no shot (yes I'm still salty that an offensive line that was manhandled by a mediocre TCU 3-3-5 created this "toughness" narrative by using illegal means to steal our signals). I guess the question is whether, minus Stalions and Harbaugh, Michigan still has the outfit to use their extensive pre-game scouting footage to decrypt opposing defensive signals by the 2nd half.
With multiple signalers, it takes a while for the cheaters to determine the 'hot' signaler. We have enough great WRs and RBs to bring in plays without sacrificing offensive production. It would minimize exposure of our signals. On defense, it might be a little harder since the playcalls depend on the offensive formations. They'll need to figure out a different way... maybe change up some of their calls, change the hot caller, etc. I'm sure they'll figure it out.
Fuck Michigan
Stantman, Be careful, Buckeyes! T.Tech, 4-5, beat KU on road.
JI row end 78
Dem grays doe
LOOK GOOD FEEL GOOD PLAY GOOD PAY GOOD
MAKE IT HAPPEN
Where there's smoke, there's fire!
Victory loves preparation
GET DUMPED THEN, MICHIGAN STATE (AND JIM HARBAUGH))
* Chefs Kiss *
MAKE IT HAPPEN
GET SMUSHED THEN, MICHIGAN STATE (AND JIM HARBAUGH))
Today is a great day in Buckeye Nation!
Time and change will surely show how firm thy friendship, O HI O.
Time to go back to the good old days before tcun cheated and the normal was Penn State beating them on a regular basis. I see them going back to their 3 or 4 losses a season form.
A wise one once said "Men own their mistakes, cowards blame, complain and defend." I guess it is pretty clear which group TCUN belongs to.
That said, let's go gentlemen, beat Sparty!
"The minute we stop expecting greatness, we become Wisconsin."
After reading and now digesting the B1G’s letter to UM, my biggest takeaway is the the University of Michigan itself was fine with letting their football team continue to reap the benefits of cheating. Two points stood out to me:
1. UM didn’t even suspend Connor Stalions until 2 days after the NCAA informed them of the illegal scheme, and then only after the NCAA came back and said ‘hey are you gonna do something about that guy?’
2. UM didn’t want the B1G to warn their upcoming opponents of the illegal scheme. On p3 Petitti says it was only after much discussion and insistence on his part.
This means that if the football coaches and staff still have unfairly gained information at their disposal, the University of Michigan will let them use it with impunity. There will be no self monitoring.
This.
I guess I was naive. I guess I thought too highly of my fellow humans. No more.
I still find it stunning that a major university, previously held in high regard academically, at least, would be so blatantly callus toward honesty and integrity and sportsmanship. From the top down?!
I still have a hard time coming to terms with this, and I’m not being hyperbolic or grandstanding. That is my sincere reaction: WTF Ono?! Seriously? No seriously?!
How can ANYONE, from janitor to tenured professor, keep working at an institution that doesn’t care about basic fairness and morality?!
gfounds
Win at all costs, the ends justify the means, there's a reason cliches exists.
Seo
Gfounds, morality? Didn't you know we live in the greatest country in the world? Morality is the least approach with many of our fine citizens. That is why we are in the mess we are in.
WE ARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 2 more qts. to come back against the cheaters.
JI row end 78
One thing that makes me laugh is that the information came from inside the michigan program... not Ryan Day, Ryan Day's brother the PI or Rutgers, Purdue or anyone else. It came from MICHIGAN. It said "at least 3 University officials attending NCAA interviews." The NCAA was interviewing michigan staffers. This was around the time all the michigan excuse-makers were boasting they couldn't be interviewing the coaches because they were in East Lansing gearing up for the game.
It came from multiple people inside the michigan program after all.
But but but Ryan Day.
Fuck Michigan
I signed in just to upvote this! Lost respect for them
Rom 5:8
It is not just cowardice in my opinion. They have gone full-DARVO through all of this like any narcissist trying to avoid accountability. Pile of both really mortared with heaps of arrogance.
If you're going through hell, keep going.
Hi Frimmel! I wanted to UV you and respond briefly. I fully agree it cannot excluded by any means that Jimmy suffers from a nacrissist personality disorder. Especially malignant narcissists tend to compensate feelings of inadequacy with an overblown sense of self-importance and literally are not able to understand the concept that right and wrong might apply to them. They see the world as consisting of themselves and everyone else, who are but objects to be used to substantiate their self-importance, subsequently to be discarded when they no longer satisfy this purpose. Immorality and even illicit behavior cannot apply to them because they want to see themselves as above these concepts. Nothing I have seen concerning Jimmy over the past 20 years would refute the aformentioned.
"The minute we stop expecting greatness, we become Wisconsin."
Morning.
Beat Sparty. Leave no doubt.
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peidiwch â ffycin gyda'r Cymry
WE ARE----------Go, Nits, beat Blue!!!!!!!!!!!!
JI row end 78
Go Bucks, beat the Spartans.
Something, something, something…………. Waiting for LXXIII…
Set the Earth Reverberating
“Welllllllllllllllllllll, I don’t give a damn bout the whole state of Michigan……..”
OSU ALUM
God bless you veterans. And thank you.
I’m a mini van driver in a mega fun world
The story about 131 WWII vets dying every day hit a nerve, especially how it opens: my old man was with the Marines on Iwo Jima. He died at 53; if he was still alive, he’d turn 100 later this month. Like many veterans of that war, he never talked about it but in hindsight, it’s clear he suffered from PTSD and not talking about it was probably a mechanism many vets used to try to forget it. It’s great to see their stories are being recorded; they deserve to be told and remembered.
Thank you to all who have served to defend our country and protect our freedoms.
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke
Iwo Jima had to be pure hell. Not that battles in all wars aren't pure hell, but man o man the footage from Iwo and Tarawa... my God it was horrifying. God bless our veterans.
Fuck Michigan
Gonna be a bad day for college football teams in that state up North today.
Hope Penn state shoves one of those shitty vacuums right up Blake corums ass. Bunch of scumbags up north. Hope stallions has his tickets to the prison sex his bitch ass team is about to experience.
I read excerpts from UMs letter to the B1G - hard to read because it had no facts and just threatened. I was thoroughly impressed with the B1G's letter to UM. It sounds as though UM has pissed off the B1G and NCAA. I am very interested in how the refereeing will be in PSU and TCUN. TCUN cannot be allowed to reap the rewards of their cheating; they need to reap the consequences of their actions.
Ttuttle
Did you see the TTUN/Hairball attorney stole whole unedited excerpts of a fan rant on MGoBlow for his 10-page letter to the B1G?
The author reported it in a subsequent post, but said it’s okay if it helps the cause.
We gotta open up a big ol’can of whoop ass on that state, starting with generational payback to Sparty.
"Y'all got a real purty mouth" - Dabo Swinny • BuckeyeJuggernaut.com
Bet = Beat every team. I think everyone outside of the pure Cheater State is cheering for Penn State to BTC= Beat the Cheaters!
Go Bucks!
That whole thing is a typo. It’s supposed to be: CET. Cheat Every Time
Charlie hates gophers and wolverines
I hope my buckeyes never feel the need to cheat to win. I’d rather root for a try hard team that comes up short than a dominant cheater. That all of this came to light basically on Veterans Day makes it extra special for myself and I’m sure the other buckeye veterans. GO BUCKS!! It’s a great day to be a buckeye.
First of all, shout-out to my late father, SSG Snook, The Ohio State University class of '41, who served with distinction in WWII with the 7th Armored Division. If you want to read up on a unit that saw some stuff, read their history. I have sports heroes, but none of them hold a candle to my father. Miss you pops.
Is OSU beatable? In the most technical sense of the word, sure. But at some point improbable teeters on the brink of impossible, and Ohio State is the fat kid that's about to secretly slip off the teeter toter and let the skinny kid dressed in green and white slam his ass on the harsh concrete of reality. Bucks by a metric ton.
Also, screw those cheaters up north. The only thing I hate more than a sanctimonious asshole who has dipped themselves in a color closer to urine than corn is a cheater who pretends to earn their titles through merit instead of treachery. Go Penn State!
Rant over.
To err is human. Really sucking requires having yellow stripes on your helmet.
My father served in the U.S. Navy in the Pacific Theatre during WWII. The Greatest Generation. So grateful and respectful for all US vets.
BTW, if you love WWII history as I do, there's a really good Steven Spielberg movie coming out in January called "Masters of the Air," on Apple TV, about US bomber pilots flying over Nazi Germany. The trailer looks really good!
I'm squeamishly optimistic.
Masters of the Air is part of Spielberg’s and Tom Hanks collaboration that produced Band of Brothers and The Pacific. I’m assuming it will be a more graphic and violent version of The Memphis Belle.
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke
The part of me that grew up during the 10-year War, suffered thru the Cooper years, and then got to see Tressel & Meyer dominate That Team is sad that this great rivalry has been so badly damaged by the actions an overzealous, fanatical super-fan and a desperate, narcissistic coach.
Michigan is no longer a great and worthy rival that I can take great joy in watching our team defeat on the field. They’re a sad, pathetic clown show.
True, but I still will take great joy in seeing the Buckeyes (or really anyone else) kick their ass
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peidiwch â ffycin gyda'r Cymry
Absolutely goddamned right
Nail on the head Navy, nail on the head.
Victory loves preparation
In separate news, the possibility of a 7-way tie with Nebraska winning the B1G West is still in play.
The end of Divisions can’t come fast enough.
I love the all-gray with scarlet numbers unis. Toyt! I like them better than the all-black or all-white-cocaine alt unis. I'm feeling really gray, today.
This MSU team is bad. It's always good to respect your opponent, but I don't think this MSU team could survive the MAC. Let's go Buckeyes Nuts! Poison the Spartans.
I'm squeamishly optimistic.
The most likely end game is that Hairball has coached his last game in college.
gfounds
I won’t upvote this, because it doesn’t feel good to cheer one’s demise as a principle, but I believe you may be correct.
Perhaps he gets to be on the sidelines for a bowl game, but I think the hammer which has been accumulating will drop before next year and the school will see he’s not worth the bother and the damaged reputation.
It’ll take awhile to rebuild their reputation but the first step they need to take is severing all ties with the entire coaching staff. A clean slate is the only path for them. But will they do that?
Expecting James Franklin to deliver the skunks head on a platter is something like a movie where an incompetent bumbling fool is required to do something important and fails. Penn State can and will beat them, but James Franklin has to smother those game day decisions he makes that end up blowing up in his face. no trick plays or gimmicks. Just go straight at them for 4 quarters. even I am surprised at the way Michigan is handling the situation. They are completely defiant and are now the victims and in a national circle jerk led by Tom Brady and that douchebag from barstool making shirts that say “bet” on them. I do truly believe that in the end this will be what if anything delivers the death penalty to their program. With one voice they are all saying that they’re just going to leave the conference and becoming independent. It sounds a lot like when celebrities say they are leaving the country if so and so is elected or something. The Canadians don’t want you either. They bitch about due process, but this is absolutely not the judicial system, the NCAA took the extraordinary move to reach out to all the members of the conference as has been pointed out previously. How can it be possible that they believe that the entire conference agreed with one voice that Jim Harbaugh, and those cheaters up north did wrong, and yet they are somehow claiming irreparable damage? We were the victims of their crimes along with anybody else they played over the past several years. We can never get those losses back, and all the heartache From the ill gotten scheme, we are all irreparably damaged and should have standing to sue them for irreparable damage, pain and suffering, libel and deformation. We have the receipts! Go Penn State!
Round on the ends and "HI" in the middle. O-HI-O.
These smoke-gray unis are a great indication of what MSU is going to receive tonight.
Victory loves preparation
Used to put a similar saying on tee shirts:
HIT FIRST, HIT FAST!
HIT HARD, HIT LAST!
Start it and finish it!
Mr karma is looking for a team today to deal some unfortunate results since they have behaved poorly. I wonder who he may choose.
Banks of olentangy
Ball don’t lie
Happy Veterans Day to all who served! Happy Veterans Day to my Dad who made me and my brothers the biggest damn Buckeye fans he could! Go Bucks, and Fuck michigan
I'm actually surprised just how far Michigan is going to fight all of this. It shows a remarkable lack of professionalism and respect.
If Ryan Day's staff was found to be cheating, and spending football budget to do so, he'd be fired on the spot, I have no doubt. Tressel stepped down to avoid being fired for lying to the NCAA about playing players he knew sold their personal trophies, and therefore to gain an advantage on the field. I dont remember Ohio State fighting the penalties or slamming the NCAA or the Big Ten during that fiasco.
And now all their dipshit players are doubling down, too? You fuckers cheated against Ohio State! If there is an afterlife, you better be ready to meet Bo and Woody as the first faces you see.
God bless Penn St and all the absolute harassment of the whole state of Michigan for being scum bag cheaters. Let ‘em have it PSU
Fire Jim Harbaugh
GO BUCKS beat Sparty !!!!
Seo
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peidiwch â ffycin gyda'r Cymry
Ouch. That one stings. Funny, but still stings
God bless all veterans present and past ...
What has become clear is the head job Ohio State did to Michigan and their supporters over the past 20+ years. They truly believe they are a superior program and it’s their divine right to win. After going through multiple head coaches, it became clear that they weren’t going to beat Ohio State playing by the rules. Also, Harbaugh was on the brink of being fired and no one in the NFL wanted him. This set the perfect conditions to open the door for acceptance to cheating. Michigan sees what is coming their way from the NCAA and is all in on protecting the season in hopes to win a national championship. Even if it destroys the program for years to come. Vacating wins in the future doesn’t matter to them. They will have the “memories” of seeing it play out on the field. It’s a sad story because outside of dominating bad teams, there is no indication that Michigan will complete with the elite teams. Look how difficult it has been for Ohio State, even with some great teams.
GeorgiaBuckeye
Killing time until our game this afternoon by going to the UW-Utah game. The weather is horrible, so am not looking forward to it as much as previously. We'll see if Penix can throw it all over the place in these conditions. Go Bucks, screw Blue, and thanks veterans!
My aim, then, is to whip the Weasels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom. - William Tecumseh Sherman (with apologies)
This will be kind of a deer-in-the-headlights game. Hide the women and children.
Schichata
38-0