Yes, it's 100% OK after any game to say, "Ha ha, you said you're the best but we're better than you" after beating someone who talked big before the game. That's not hubris. That's some pretty basic schoolyard stuff, right there. Also, if your paraphrase is correct (I didn't see the comments myself) the Oregon guys weren't declaring themselves better than all other teams. They weren't saying "Actually, we're the Best In America, capital B, capital I, capital A". They were giving our guys on both sides of the ball a very well deserved "haha you suck." --- I'm not saying Smith or any other Buckeyes suck. Not at all. But Oregon players 100% earned the right to say whatever they want.

Yeah, "after the game." Then, it's not stupid. They absolutely humiliated our "Best in America" backfield. It's not a high horse, man. You talk shit after you've won the game. Because when you proclaim yourself BIA and get pantsed, you look like a damn fool.

Whatever. The counter argument is actually pretty obvious. Dude wasn't even one of the two best receivers in Autzen Stadium. Seriously. It's only been a few games. He made a few nice catches and outran some DBs from Akron Northwest State or wherever. I'm done with all this BIA BS. What "massive talent advantage" do we bring against other top teams? I mean, c'mon. This hubris is the main reason why fans who buy the bullshit are shocked and angry when we get beat, and it may very well contribute to our underperformance against other top teams. Day should not allow his players to talk like this.

It would have been fun if the hype were true and we were head-and-shoulders better than everyone else, even other really good teams. Now we know it isn't true. I hope the coaches and players use that knowledge well. The season ain't over. 

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fair point. (I was born in 1977 by the way... in Columbus.)

It was a great catch but hardly "1 in a million." there are highlights of one-handed catches literally every week. It was a solid throw under pressure. If we're going to "be real" part of that means giving credit where credit's due.

Like others, I'm very happy with Howard overall, but I am a little concerned about this tidbit:

After completing just 1-of-3 passes under pressure against Michigan State, he has now completed just 2-of-12 passes (16.7%) for 14 yards while under pressure this season.

TTUN's recipe the past three years has been pretty simple -- disrupt the QB and stuff the run. Obviously, knowing the plays helped. But I'm sure they're looking at this stat and feeling like the recipe could work again. From their perspective, if Howard can't deliver under pressure, it won't matter how talented our WRs are. This is one stat to watch carefully for signs of improvement. Iowa should provide a good test.

Funny that the article doesn't even mention Justin Frye. He has gotten so much hate on these boards. Where's the love now? I guess that's life. Who even thinks about the OLine coach when things are going well? 

Obviously they still have a lot to prove, but if the line plays well throughout the season, we'll know that Frye was being scapegoated for scheme problems at the OC and HC level.

Good points. On the other hand, if it's not clear which guy should be the true RG1 and you pick wrong, it would be harder to correct course later in the season. As a matter of confidence, proving it on the field could earn confidence (both self-confidence and from the other guys on the line).

The administration's behavior through this has been most surprising to me. Generally, administrators on the academic side don't care at all about wins or losses. Sure, they're happy to celebrate championships, but they don't have the investment that fans do. Also, people overestimate the financial incentives. UM has a $250M athletic budget, which is huge, but the university's whole budget is over $13B. Universities are massive, massive operations. 

When it comes to scandal, administrators are motivated by fear and shame -- the goal is to save face. Ono made a simple "bet"... that he had more to lose from the UM fanbase than from the NCAA. They need to prove him wrong. If he isn't forced to resign in shame, justice will not have been done, and other university president's will be tempted to follow suit.

best use of "postulates" in an Internet comment!

That was 18 seasons ago.

damn I'm old

I just logged in to say the same thing.

I assume Fritz was a little biased by the example of Michael Hall Jr, who was listed at 280 on the 2022 roster. But he wasn't typical, as you point out. He was on the smaller end.

https://ohiostatebuckeyes.com/sports/football/roster/michael-hall%20jr./5929

This is the article we were all hoping to read last fall -- a qb taking command in practice -- and it never came. Nice to see.

With the caveat that none of this matters and it's all just funny... all y'all are all wrong. As reported in the Athletic:

But the NCAA had evidence that it happened, including a photo taken in Michigan’s football facility and a breakfast receipt that showed someone ordering a bacon cheeseburger for breakfast.

When presented with the receipt, Harbaugh changed his tune.

“I had to be there, because somebody ordered a hamburger for breakfast,” he said, according to a person involved in the process. “Who else orders a hamburger for breakfast besides me? Nobody.”

The fact that he bought the bacon cheeseburger for himself was the smoking gun, because no one else would do it because he's such a fucking weirdo and even he knows it. That is genuinely hilarious.

Every time someone defends him by saying, "He just bought a recruit a burger," you can say, "Actually, he bought himself the burger. The violation wasn't the burger. It was the meeting and the lying."

Sorry everyone, but the person who bets on Harbaugh being weird will always, always win. Every debate. Every time. Yes, you all sometimes eat burgers for breakfast. So do I. I ate a burger for breakfast this morning, in fact. But I don't do it at a professional work meeting and neither do you.

Of course none of this matters at all. I just find it funny.

Go Bucks!

Everyone's done it. Sure. Here's the thing: The best he can manage is "not that weird" when he's specifically trying to make the best possible impression. 

I also find it genuinely hilarious that every *ichigan fan who ever tweeted "all he did was buy a recruit a cheeseburger" has, from the get-go, had the basic fact wrong.

I hope it works out this way. Seems like every year people are on these boards saying this, but somehow it doesn't happen. The problem, when it comes to rotating the O and D line, is that if you wait until you're up by five touchdowns to rotate, too much can go wrong and the backups barely see any snaps before mid 4th quarter, and never any meaningful snaps.

Was I the only one surprised to see we graded out top 10 with the offensive line? Is it just because we have four starters returning?

The video was awesome no matter what, and I don't think he was lying, but I think he had to have heard the song before without realizing it, even just ambiently out in public somewhere. There's no way you live in NYC for years without hearing Nirvana in the background. Dave Grohl was clearly crawling around in his subconscious. 

If you count Howard graduating, I'd guess we lose three. I expect us to lose at least two others. I don't see us keeping both Sayin and Noland, nor both Brown and Kienholz.

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Agree 100%